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The magazine is the most important part of a semi-automatic...
and they still didn't get it right.
and they still didn't get it right.
Agreed. I want to like it & keep looking at them, but I have reservations due to the issues with the original rollout.
Does it do anything significantly better than my other handguns? Do I want the Pederson action in a modern gun (I have an original Model 51) enough to spend the money & take the chance?
So far, my answer is "no", but the low prices are tempting.
But - in the end - I'm afraid Remington squandered their opportunity with the first generation problems.
I would think it must.Not that the R51's design was a new innovation, but I hope this experience doesn’t discourage other manufacturers from trying something different or new or innovative in firearms design.
Ya, I think the lack of candid, timely information on Remington's part was just as damning as the actual product problems. Your experience was typical of their customer service with this gun, as if Freedom Group told Remington to " shut up and lawyer up."I bought one of the first ones made. The good the bad and the very ugly.:
I took mine to the range with both light and heavy S.D. reloads with several different 124/125 gr RN and JHPs.
The Good: The pistol pointed perfectly and felt great in my smallish hands. The sights were good enough for shots to25 yards. The felt recoil and muzzle flip with SD loads using Speer G.D. bullets and others was amazingly light. As advertised the recoil was close to straight back. It was accurate with targets at 5,10 and one at 25 yards. The stainless mags dropped and inserted fast. All fed smoothly. The R51 was very comfortable in a cheap holster I had on hand.
The Bad: My trigger finger was in pain after 20 rds. The slightest trigger pressure to the left (weak hand side) caused a huge pull weight increase. I started missing 10 and even 7 yard shots and found the rear sight would slide to the right with just a little push of a finger.
The UGLY: I managed to get about 40 rds downrange when my trigger finger gave up. I checked the pistol closer and found the rear dovetail was "curved" across the top of the slide instead of straight. The cheapy trigger was loose left to right and when left it rubbed and binded.
I contacted "Remington", who really wasn't the owning company; and they said send it back and they would repair or replace it within 4-6 weeks. Okay, I sent it back. I never heard from them again. I repeatedly called/emailed , but the reply was we don't know what "they" are going to do. I went through this for "1 YEAR". After the year, they offered to send a free 45 cal or my original cost money back. If I had wanted a 45, I would bought a 45; so I asked for a refund. About a month(?) later the refund arrived.
To this day, I LIKED everything about this pistol except the horrible machine work and lack of ANY quality control. It had exceptionally good ergonomics. I wish they hadn't screwed it up. I won't trust the new-Remington firearm or Remington's service again.
P.S. I still have the two mags they didn't want back. They worked fine.
No one has ever explained what was fundamentally wrong with the first series. Remington had to do something to make this one work better, but what changed, I don't know.