Review of the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111

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I had a Mil-Pro PT111 Gen.3 years ago and while I had no problems with the gun I never quite got use to the grip angle and the sights. For whatever reason the gun always seemed to point low in my hand, forcing me to realign the sights every time I brought it on target. Eventually I sold it and got a Ruger SR9c which handles and points much more naturally for me. Aside from the grip design I found the PT111 to be fairly well made (mine had a stainless slide), with a decent enough trigger. I think with a stainless slide it would make for a good trunk gun stored in your GHB.
 
Despite the gun being called Millennium G2, its actually the 3rd version of the gun.
-Actually, it's the 4th. - SSN Vet -
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Thanks for the correction. You're right it is confusing, but I don't want to put out bad info... I was able to edit that post and change it to say 4th version, and I documented it in the "Reason for Editing" field so hopefully nobody gets confused.

I think with a stainless slide it would make for a good trunk gun stored in your GHB
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I think it would hold up better than the gun I bought. The finish on my gun doesn't look like it will last and we've already seen some photos from owners who have had the blued version of the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 for a while and the finish doesn't hold up that well. I think that's one thing the Hi-Point probably has on this gun - the ZAMAK is not going to rust and the steel parts on the Hi-Point are mostly internal where they'll be protected by oil or grease.

The stainless steel version of the Millennium G2, (Model: 111G2SS) is pretty rare and when I see those sub $200 prices its never for the stainless steel version
 
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My first PT111 G2 came drenched in oil, I agree, it seems like it was dunked in oil, then stuck in the bag for shipping. Once I cleaned it out/off, I took it to the range and other than the third shot where it jammed up tight, probably due to my finger riding the slide, it gobbled up about 200 rounds without any problems. Since then, it's gone about 800 more with no issues, it ate everything I put into it. I installed a fiber optic front sight, and a stainless steel guide rod, and I like the gun so much I bought a second one. It's got even more oil than the first one did! I will hopefully shoot it next week, and if it does well, it's also going to have a fiber optic front sight and the stainless guide rod put on it too. My original gun shows no wear anywhere that isn't seen on any semiauto I've ever seen. I see nothing that appears to be substandard on it with the possible exception of the trigger safety, which seems to cause a problem on some guns.
 
I purchased 2 G2s online from different vendors. One from Buds that was stainless and the other was blued from another vendor. Neither of them had oil on them and both had great fit and finish for the price.
 
I took the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 to the range again this weekend, nothing special, I ran some 147gr Speer Lawman TMJ, 115gr Winchester Target FMJ, and 115gr Federal Champion FMJ. I didn't have any problems. I did notice that the 147gr shot closer to POA. I was using 6 O'Clock hold and even though the gun was shooting left, it was shooting OK for elevation. I can't say the trigger is getting any better or the groups are getting any tighter.

When I went to clean the gun a little silica ball fell out. I can't imagine where that silica pellet could have been hiding... somewhere where it didn't affect the functioning of the gun evidently.
 
The rear sight is already cranked all the way to the right and I'm wondering why it came from the factory that way?

Well anyway, it wasn't just my imagination that the double action trigger on the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 is better than the single action. I took a Lyman trigger gauge to it today and the DA pull averages out to be 6 lbs, 9.6 oz over 10 trigger pulls. The single action trigger pull averages out to 7 lbs, 6.5 oz and the SA trigger pull is a lot less consistent than the DA pull, a wider spread. I had one pull where it was 8 lbs, one pull where it was 6 lbs, 12 oz. The DA trigger pull is generally right around 6 lbs 9.6 oz each time. I had a high of 6 lbs 12 oz and a low of 6 lbs 8 ounces - a much narrower set of figures than the SA trigger metrics.
 
I had a friend's PT111 Gen2 for a couple of months. Shot a few magazines through it with no issues. I really like the way it fits in my hand. The oval cross section of the grip feels much better than a G26 or XD subcompact. I also like that you can get three fingers on the grip and find that it points quite naturally. There's a lot that I like about this little 12 shot pistol. However, the trigger breaks too close to the frame, too far to the rear, for my long, "piano player" fingers, adversely affecting my "combat accuracy". So, ultimately it was a no-go for me.
 
My PT111 eats any factory ammunition I feed it. I'm still trying to work out a reload that works reliably, but that's just a matter of time and patience.
 
Taurus PT 111 G2

I have had mine for about 18 Months. It was my 1st purchase from Bud's and I paid $249. It digests everything I feed it-mostly my hand loads. I agree that the long trigger pull is annoying but not too bad once I got familiar with it. I alternate carrying it with my 40C M&P.I feel very comfortable with it. It is a good value for a dependable reasonably priced weapon.
 
Anyone know where I get one for around $200. I live in north Houston. Gander Mt. and Academy they are priced closer to $280
 
Well one thing you can do is find an FFL dealer in your area, and check SlickGuns or GunWatcher for sales:

https://www.slickguns.com/category/hand-guns

The try searches uner Taurus Millenium / Taurus G2 / Taurus PT111 and you'll get some prices from online gun sellers.

I had to wait almost 2 months before I found one for under $200.00 shipped.
 
I have been looking for this gun for a while now and it was hard to find one in the 200-250 price range. Gander Mountain had a deal for $349 bucks but it came with and 80 dollar laser sight. Well they had none in stock when i got there. I ended up paying 280 and it was well worth it! Just got back from the range today after 100 rounds and not one problem! it fits great in the hand and shoots accurate, holds 12+1 rounds, its light, come with a second mag and so far very reliable!

Most of the other handguns in that size are single stack and don't feel that great in MY hand so it was an easy choice to pick it up. Go fondle one and you will see. Taurus di a good one with this gun!:what:
 
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Anyone know where I get one for around $200. I live in north Houston. Gander Mt. and Academy they are priced closer to $280
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Gunbuyer.com has 'em for $209 right now, free shipping. If you've got an FFL near you that does transfers for reasonably cheap, that's probably the best deal going. I think they're based in Florida, so they won't charge you sales tax.
 
Supported local economy. Didn't get the $200 deal

Went to Gander Mountain just to look at the G2. Cute blond told me all about it and how good it was. Guy with all the tattoos said it was great and he had one in his truck right now. The girl said to get the Hornady Critical defense FTX bullets. So I left with the gun and the bullets.
 
You can get spacers that are custom made for the Mec-Gar Sig 226 mag here:

http://www.shapeways.com/product/L3...w&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=affiliate

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Yes the spacers are kind of expensive considering that the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 is a budget gun, but I just thought I'd put it out there...

Here is a video of using the Mec-Gar 18 & 20 rd mags with the spacers from EveryDay J:

 

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Great gun for the money never had any issues with it did carry it for a short while and sold it for a Glock 26 but I will buy another one in the future since I did really like it.
In my experience I would take a Taurus handgun any day over a Keltec pistol for defense.
 
Here are the Sig P226 Mec-Gar mags with the Shapeways spacers. I think the gun looks funny with the 20 round mag in it, but I didn't buy it for concealed carry, I just wanted a cheap gun for my get home bag, and I'm happier with 20+1 rounds than 12+1.

The 20rd Mec-Gar with spacer:

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The 20rd Mec-Gar with no spacer:

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The 18rd Mec-Gar with spacer:

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The 18rd Mec-Gar with no spacer:

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The 12rd Taurus magazine that the gun comes with:

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I ran across this thread again today Count Zero. I hadn't looked at it in months. Now I find myself wondering how difficult it would be to convert it to double action only. I doubt I will mess with it as I would rather not damage a functioning firearm & void the warranty. I would like it much better if it were double action only though.
 
I went to the range today and ran the 18-round and 20 round Mec-Gar magazines for the Sig P226 through their paces in my Taurus Millennium G2 PT 111. I did have the spacers on the mags.

The gun functioned flawlessly with them.

I checked for loading and firing the first round from a locked back slide, and I checked for last round hold open. I tested the magazines completely full and I did a few test with only 2 rounds loaded in the magazine to make sure they would load and fire the first round and lock back on the last round.

I had no problems.

Just a note on the spacer when used with the 18rd Mec-Gar magazine, if you grab onto the spacer to hold the mag while you're reloading, it will slide up the magazine - its just not that tight. So I hold the very bottom of the magazine when loading the mag. Just an FYI - make sure your spacer is snugged down before you insert the mag into the gun.

This doesn't happen with the 20 - rounder from Mec-Gar, the 20 rounder has a latch on the back of the magazine for taking off the base plate, and the spacer has to come down over that latch and that is a tight fit. As a consequence, the spacer doesn't move up on the 20 - round magazine once you've snugged it down to the base plate.
 
C0untZer0 said:
Despite the gun being called Millennium G2, its actually the 4th version of the gun. I generally have had a very low opinion of Taurus firearms. The original iteration of this gun was called the Millennium PT111, and it had a lot of issues, feeding and ejection problems, cases of frame pins cracking - just what I considered par for the course Taurus lack of quality. I wasn't interested in the original Millennium PT111 at all, and I'm not intimately familiar with the details of that gun, but as far as the grip goes... it sort of reminded me of a Springfield Armory XD(m). The magazine well was flat and the magazine protruded a little bit. The latest Millennium G2 PT111 has stippling on the front and backstrap instead of the raised squares like the XD(m). Here is a side-by-side comparision:

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I have the original PT111 Mill. for over 7 yrs. and no problems either with factory ammo or reloads. Very heavy trigger but it will not fire accidently due to a light trigger. CC's well. There is nothing you can do to the trigger. Talked to a few smiths and they said you get what you get. can't do a action job on this particular gun.
 
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