Revolver as conceal carry

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@Onewildhoss - I fully agree with your sentiment about minimal expectations for training and training currency. While I would never support an infringement of the right to carry a firearm to defend yourself such as requiring a training course for concealed carry, but I do believe a responsibly minded person should hold themselves to a standard which requires regular, quality instruction as well as regular, quality practice.

I personally try to take at least one handgun and one carbine class every year (and in recent years, a long range rifle course). I’m an instructor myself, but still hold myself to that expectation. I believe firmly enough in the importance of training as a necessity that I usually offer a few free handgun basics courses each year if a group pulls together to fill it - just to be sure a price tag never stands between instruction and the folks wanting/needing it. I firmly believe, at the very least, a person carrying a defensive firearm should take a training course annually, a law refresher every other year, practice live fire at least quarterly, and dry fire biweekly. Better still would be training annually to biannually, live fire monthly, and dry fire weekly to multiple times per week.

A word of caution - I absolutely do not believe a person can be “self taught” in anything. “Teaching” is an act where someone who possesses knowledge passes said onto someone who does not. A person can try to learn on their own, but the most efficient learning is done when instructed by a qualified and skilled teacher. Trying to learn on your own is a nasty trap - a person might see some moderate success in a bad technique, not realizing it is bad, then foster that into their habit, because it seemed to work at their early stage. In later stages, that bad technique has now been engrained as a bad habit, limiting their ability to progress. Seek training from qualified and reputable instructors before you develop any bad habits - even if your well meaning dad, Uncle, husband, Pastor, neighbor, whoever offers to help. Unless they’re a qualified instructor or professional competitive coach, most likely they don’t possess the skills and ability to instruct others, and WILL pass on bad techniques which they don’t realize are bad themselves.
 
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It appears that it has been covered pretty well with some great responses. I'll add my .02¢...my EDC is a Ruger LCR 357 which I alternate with an SP101 of the same caliber. Because of the transfer bar system that is just about as safe of a combination one can carry.

My only thought is more of a question? What is the point of carrying an unloaded weapon for self defense? When you ever need it...moments count...that is not the time to be fumbling around trying to load ammo into it.

As others have indicated...PLEASE find a qualified, reputable instructor that will teach you how to safely present and use your firearm responsibly...and make you train regularly so your comfortable with it's proper use.

Carrying a firearm for self-defense is a huge responsibility that should not ever be taken lightly. Always remember when things go south that you and you alone are responsible and accountable for every bullet that leaves the barrel.
 
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My own choices for a CCW typically run to a double action trigger design. In my case it would be a S&W J frame revolver (like a Model 649 or 638), in .38 Special or a semi-automatic pistol (like a Kahr CM9), in 9mm. All three guns are used primarily in the double action mode and are extremely safe and easy to carry concealed.

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When you suddenly need a firearm, it will typically be because someone jumps you as you round a corner, or jumps you from behind a car in a parking lot, or from bushes, etc.

Being able to reach your holster quickly and draw quickly is paramount. Purse carry is not the best: the draw is slower, and that's what the BG will probably be reaching for anyway.

I carry in a cargo pants pocket, jacket breast pocket, coat pocket, or a holster on my belt that's covered by a light shirt. I prefer revolvers, because that's what I've shot the most for most of my life. My Ruger LCR is my favorite carry piece. It is light and so easy to carry that I often forget it's there, but the double-action trigger is so smooth that I can shoot it very accurately.
 
I wonder why more classes are not pre requisite for conceal carry classes.

Firearms are a right, not a favor the government hands us out of the goodness of their hearts. Having said that a right comes with responsibility. Owning a handgun and knowing how and when to use it are two different things. Shooting at paper targets once a month is not the same as being proficient with a handgun. I personally think carrying is a great idea but regular, purposeful practice is also a good idea.

BTW, I do a lot of revolver shooting, as in a lot of revolver shooting. A small "Airweight" J-Frame or equivalent is easy to conceal and very reliable and of course light weight. It is also a handful even with light target loads. We have several J-Frames but just know that you really need to shoot them a considerable amount to learn how to handle them. Because they are a handful.
 
If you are carrying your handgun, or have it in your possession in your car or your home or anywhere else for immediate access, it is "in use"- even if it isn't in your hand and being fired at that exact second. The military, law enforcement, and most hunters in the field all carry their guns loaded because they are "in use". Enemy Combatants, criminals, and the animals hunters pursue are very sneaky and impatient, they will usually not wait for you to load your gun to fire at them. Right now, I am in my house on the couch. Since I'm not hunting, my hunting guns are unloaded and secured. They are not in use, but I have access to a loaded handgun. I'm not firing it, and I'm not even carrying it- but it is in use because it is loaded and ready for action, if needed. The biggest difference between military members, police, hunters, and you is training. I suggest you get some from a competent instructor- you will be more proficient in the safe use of your weapons, and more knowledgeable about how they function.
Modern guns like your 2 revolvers will not fire by dropping them. Equally important is the aspect of having firearms in the same house with children and untrained adults, if your situation brings this into play. I recommend you get advice on this from the NRA, since this is not my area of expertise.
As far as securing your firearm in your car unattended out of necessity, lock it in the console and lock your vehicle- just don't forget to UNLOCK your console when you get back in- you won't be able to do this if you are driving with your keys in the ignition and need your handgun locked in the console! You will just have to assume the risk that someone may break in and steal it, or steal the whole car. Just like someone could break into your house and steal things.
 
Firearms are a right, not a favor the government hands us out of the goodness of their hearts. Having said that a right comes with responsibility. Owning a handgun and knowing how and when to use it are two different things. Shooting at paper targets once a month is not the same as being proficient with a handgun. I personally think carrying is a great idea but regular, purposeful practice is also a good idea.

BTW, I do a lot of revolver shooting, as in a lot of revolver shooting. A small "Airweight" J-Frame or equivalent is easy to conceal and very reliable and of course light weight. It is also a handful even with light target loads. We have several J-Frames but just know that you really need to shoot them a considerable amount to learn how to handle them. Because they are a handful.
A "handful", as in store bought +p ammo being a bad idea for a typical lady with limited range time. I like Winchester's Train and Defend. My own alloy bug gun is a little beast.
 
The Ruger sp101 is a fantastic revolver and one of my favorite carry guns. Get a good holster and carry with confidence. The Ruger is a tank and will not go off unless you pull the trigger.
 
The Ruger sp101 is a fantastic revolver and one of my favorite carry guns. Get a good holster and carry with confidence. The Ruger is a tank and will not go off unless you pull the trigger.
I own more than one SP101 and am carrying one at the moment, but it is a boat anchor as a purse gun, and ladies are not always dressed for concealment. A number of posts do not seem to be in the context of assuming a typical female's mode of carry...as in be sure to read the OP, not just the latest posts that may be off in the weeds.
 
I own more than one SP101 and am carrying one at the moment, but it is a boat anchor as a purse gun, and ladies are not always dressed for concealment. A number of posts do not seem to be in the context of assuming a typical female's mode of carry...as in be sure to read the OP, not just the latest posts that may be off in the weeds.

I did read original OP and she did say BOTH carry on her person AND possibly purse. PLUS the MAIN concern was that of having a loaded weapon and drop safety of such weapons NOT mode of carry which BTW I know the sp101 to not be to heavy for purse carry but that wasn't her point of her OP.
 
I did read original OP and she did say BOTH carry on her person AND possibly purse. PLUS the MAIN concern was that of having a loaded weapon and drop safety of such weapons NOT mode of carry which BTW I know the sp101 to not be to heavy for purse carry but that wasn't her point of her OP.
Leaving us to wonder what "on her person" means for a typical female mode of dress. My loaded SP101 is nearly a pound heavier than my bug in my go bag, a Smith & Wesson Wyatt Deep Cover alloy J-frame.
 
Onewildhoss

My own choices for a CCW typically run to a double action trigger design. In my case it would be a S&W J frame revolver (like a Model 649 or 638), in .38 Special or a semi-automatic pistol (like a Kahr CM9), in 9mm. All three guns are used primarily in the double action mode and are extremely safe and easy to carry concealed.

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While I like my Kahr CM9, I just have a hard time shooting it well at 10 yards; I can shoot my 642, my 365, and even my LCP better. Now, with the SIG, I have a gun the same size with twice the capacity so I suppose the Kahr will either move to the back of the safe or go down the road.
 
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Took me a little while to get use to the DA trigger pull on the CM9 but after awhile it became very familiar to me. It also maked it easier to transition to the Model 649 or 638 when I want to carry them.

The SIG P365 does look tempting but I think I will just dance with the one(s) I brought for the time being.
 
The nice feature of a revolver for conceal carry is when the proverbial feces hits the rotating blades there isn't much to think about except the task at hand. Point and squeeze. No magazine to install or check...no safety to remember...no slide to rack...
 
A "handful", as in store bought +p ammo being a bad idea for a typical lady with limited range time. I like Winchester's Train and Defend. My own alloy bug gun is a little beast

Beast indeed!

My wife and daughter both have airweight J-Frames. Stock out of the box and shooting very soft handloads that I have put together my daughter still will complain about the sting. I put larger aftermarket grips on (and also a Wolfe spring kit) and she is a much happier shooter.

Took me a little while to get use to the DA trigger pull on the CM9

I know that this isn't the main issue in this thread but I'm interested in getting a CM9. The pictures up-thread are not helping me!
 
I have a Ruger sp101 357 and also a S&W .38. The 38 has a laser sight on the grip which must be turned on. Fun for target shooting, extremely impractical for actual self defense.
I have one gun with a laser sight, my Ruger LC9s. I bought the Crimson Trace laser for this gun specifically because the activation button is on the grip in such a location that you naturally press it when you hold the gun. That's the only kind of laser I would have on a self defense gun. The kind that require a separate action to turn on are worthless, IMO.

I have read that many hand guns are being manufactured with a safety drop.
In today's litigious society, I don't think there is a single modern handgun design that does not include a drop safety.

I'm just worried about accidental discharge.
The vast majority of "accidental" discharges are actually negligent discharges, in that they are directly attributable to the negligence of the user. Keep your finger off the trigger, keep items of clothing or other foreign objects out of the trigger guard, and there is almost no chance of your gun going off. A good holster is a great help accomplishing this. Avoid floppy "one size fits all" fabric holsters.

Also in the event I cant carry into a prohibited area (a court house or government building for example) the idea of leaving my gun in my vehicle unattended seems EXTREMELY irresponsible.
I avoid this for the most part by simply not going into places that are posted as "No Guns". In occasional times when I absolutely have to go into such a place (generally the post office or DMV) I try to leave my gun at home, and make a quick there-and-back trip but when that isn't possible, I have a locking gun safe in my car that I use.
 
Hello, I am new here and hoping you guys can help ease some of my apprehension with carrying a loaded revolver.
I have a Ruger sp101 357 and also a S&W .38. The 38 has a laser sight on the grip which must be turned on. Fun for target shooting, extremely impractical for actual self defense.
I have handled several weapons from shotguns, rifles, revolvers and semi auto pistols. I have always been taught to make sure my weapon is unloaded when not in use. At home, our guns and ammo are stored separately.
I want to get my conceal carry permit. I definitely believe the times we live in warrant the need for protection. My issue is that I am having a hard time with the idea of carrying a loaded weapon either on my person or in my purse. It goes against everything I've ever been taught.
I have read that many hand guns are being manufactured with a safety drop. This makes me feel a little better. I'm just worried about accidental discharge. Also in the event I cant carry into a prohibited area (a court house or government building for example) the idea of leaving my gun in my vehicle unattended seems EXTREMELY irresponsible.
I've discussed this with my husband who basically waves off these fears and tells me it will be fine. I guess I'm looking for more people with experience actually carrying to also tell me it's fine. Or to give me their experience and advice.

Ps, I live in rural Nebraska, but commute into omaha frequently.

Again, welcome to The High Road.

When I first started carrying, I'll admit it took some getting used to. I felt conspicuous, like I was doing something that would draw attention.

Really, that is not true. One thing I've learned from carrying a concealed handgun is that people just aren't that observant of other people. No one has ever said anything to me to indicate that they knew I was carrying. Once I became more confident of that, it's much easier to carry without feeling conspicuous. I just do. Lately my carry piece has been an SP101 "Talo" edition - 2.25" barrel, stainless steel but with a black melonite finish. I carry it IWB in a Simply Rugged Sourdough holster. When carrying IWB I use suspenders to help hold my pants up, and it just literally disappears.

When I pull the IWB tabs off the holster and carry it OWB, which I prefer, I just cinch my belt up a bit tighter and it rides just fine. All day. For me OWB carry works best in winter when I can wear a cover garment like a shirt-jac. A couple of years ago we took a winter trip to New Mexico and that's the way I traveled the whole time. We stayed in a bed and breakfast that was run by an amiable young hippie-type man... if he "made" me he sure didn't say anything. I went in restaurants, stores, museums, everywhere with my wife's SP101 (a different one, typical stainless steel with a 3" barrel) on my hip, covered by a Carhartt shirt-jac. (Note: Do be careful, don't go in any establishment that serves alcohol carrying a concealed weapon, even if you're not drinking, without checking the law first.) In a case where you need to leave your handgun in the car... again, people just aren't that observant. Open the trunk, and for example if you're carrying in your purse, just set your purse down in the trunk, reach in and take your weapon out and casually reach it into the spare tire compartment or other isolated spot, and lock it up. Do the same in reverse when you come back out. Trust me, no one is watching you with intent and saying "what is she doing?" They're more interested in their cell phone.

How you carry is up to you, of course. You might consider consulting a local professional for a couple of different modes of carry that suit you, and for some training.

Yes, most modern handguns, including your SP101 are made with a transfer bar that makes it impossible for it to fire if you drop it. One thing that I disagree with, I'm sure you're getting feedback on it as well, is the notion of unloading your daily carry handgun.

This is the deal - all firearms are always loaded. That is to say, it's good practice to treat our firearms as if they're loaded all the time, right? Have you been to someone's house who has a nice gun cabinet, made of hardwood and glass, (fewer of those these days, that's true) and someone admires the guns and naively asks, "Are they loaded?" I've been present in that situation and the owner of the dozen or so long guns in the cabinet didn't miss a beat, he just said, "Oh yeah, they're all loaded. All the time." Well, no they weren't loaded. His point was, they may as well have been loaded because that's the way he treats them, all the time.

When I get home I never unload my SP except if I've been to the range (not much lately) or have gotten it dirty in some other way and need to clean it. It's always loaded. Really. If it's not on my hip or in my off-body carry pack, which I employ sometimes, it's on the nightstand, with the barrel politely turned away from me and my wife. The only thing I would change would be if my wife and I had kids, I'd put it in a quick access safe, but it would still be loaded, really. We live in a bit more urban area south of you, comparable to Omaha.

BTW I suggest that you try the Speer 135gr. short-barrel loads for either .38 or .357 in your SP. OR the Buffalo Bore .38 special 158gr +P loads. They're not easy to find but you can get them from Midway. You'll feel very well armed with either of these loads in your SP.
 
The nice feature of a revolver for conceal carry is when the proverbial feces hits the rotating blades there isn't much to think about except the task at hand. Point and squeeze. No magazine to install or check...no safety to remember...no slide to rack...
Thank you for that spot on summary WGM.

I think that the OP's inquiries have been pretty well covered , so I'll be brief-
I broke a sweat the first time I carried in public. That told me that I took the responsibility seriously. One becomes acclimated.
Modern revolvers are really very safe to carry. Period.
If you carry you will sometimes have to leave the firearm in the car. Lock it away in some responsible fashion and go about your business. If some thug wants to smash a window and ransack your car or truck you cannot prevent that - other than to use good judgement as to where you leave the vehicle unattended.
Stay alert , be responsible , exercise your 2nd amendment rights and enjoy that freedom. It will make you a better person.

Welcome to the club!
 
Just make sure you get a holster that fully covers the trigger. If you carry in your pocket, put nothing else in the pocket. And I recommend the Mika pocket holster highly! It covers the weapon, stays in place when you draw, yet your weapon easily slides out of the holster with little resistance. If you carry in your purse make sure the holster covers the trigger guard. If you want to be extra careful, put your weapon in a compartment of your purse and leave it in there alone with no other objects.

I started carrying my kel-tec P32 auto pistol chambered 17 yrs ago. It's holstered, trigger guard covered and when not in my possession is in my safe or on the top and back of the fridge where only tall people, adults can reach it. If the weapon is on me, it is chambered or in the revolvers case ready to go. Just remember rule number 1, all guns are loaded, treat them accordingly.
 
A word of caution - I absolutely do not believe a person can be “self taught” in anything..

I taught myself to sail, to do celestial navigation and to pack a parachute (and I made over 400 jumps on parachutes I packed myself.)

If you can't be self-taught, who taught the first sailor, navigator, rigger or hunter?
 
I taught myself to sail, to do celestial navigation and to pack a parachute (and I made over 400 jumps on parachutes I packed myself.)

If you can't be self-taught, who taught the first sailor, navigator, rigger or hunter?

They learned the hard way. You learned how to sail, you did not teach yourself.

Read my post. Teaching is a function where someone who holds knowledge - a teacher - handing said knowledge to a student.

Learning involves someone gaining knowledge. A person can learn without a teacher, but Learning without being taught is not self-teaching, because that person is not a teacher.
 
lots of sound advice here, hard to add but i will try. caliber: don’t worry over it. find a reliable handgun that you enjoy practicing with and carrying. a hit with a soft caliber always trumps a miss with a large caliber. semiauto vs revolver: there is no time to rack a slide in a crisis, so although i have a decent amount of shooting experience i tend to revolvers because i’m more comfortable with my brain and finger being the safety, and opening the cylinder to clear a revolver is foolproof. this is me only and each of us must find our own comfort zone. finally thank you to o.p. for being one more person to responsibly exercise our precious right to bear arms!
 
They learned the hard way. You learned how to sail, you did not teach yourself.

Read my post. Teaching is a function where someone who holds knowledge - a teacher - handing said knowledge to a student.

Learning involves someone gaining knowledge. A person can learn without a teacher, but Learning without being taught is not self-teaching, because that person is not a teacher.
That's quibbling.

I have a Master's and Specialst's degree in Education, and made good money in industry after I retired from the Army. I followed the ADDIE model in teaching myself, and if that ain't teaching, a whole bunch of high-powered educators are wrong.
 
I’ve carried revolvers more than a few times. If it’s what you like and what you have it’s good by me. I only felt undergunned once. I had my elderly charter arms and was just walking to check the creek level and jumped a hog. Thank fully it ran away not toward. Never did feel inadequate against two legged critters.
 
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