revolver

[BADUNAME13]

Charter arms doesn't meet my quality standards of a carry gun (some are excellent guns, problem is, some are not, QC is not up to mystandards)

JMHO, I know others disagree.

 

[Bezoar]

meant no moon clips needed. and loads off a standard speed loader.

example, alot of people hate their sw 1917 simply because of having to use a moonclip. but what if you got the same instant ejection, but no moonclip needed?

 

[Zaydok Allen]

That would enhance the appeal to me certainly. But it still comes back to rimless auto cartridges doing nothing better than traditional rimmed revolver rounds.

 

[JERRY]

rumor has it that Charter Arms is toying with the idea of a .45acp bulldog. I don't think they can make it with the existing cylinder size, and as stated before, their Q.C. is suspect enough that its a coin toss on if you get a good one or a bad one.

 

[kcofohio]

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/charter-arms-pitbull-40/

Final Thoughts
The Pitbull is the successful execution of an idea that could become a standard in the revolver market. Shooting it left me wondering why the attempts at marketing no-moon-clips-needed revolvers have been so few and far between. This .40 S&W revolver is a solid gun built by a team with years of experience. The only real problem I had with the Pitbull is that it left me wanting more. Charter Arms said 9 mm and .45 ACP versions are not far behind, and I am looking forward to shooting them as well.

Article date was Sept. 15, 2011.

 

[C0untZer0]

The Pitbull is the successful execution

I guess his definition of successful is that the gun functions.

 

[Lucky Derby]

That would enhance the appeal to me certainly. But it still comes back to rimless auto cartridges doing nothing better than traditional rimmed revolver rounds.

While I see your point, I think the person who has/needs/wants a revolver in the same caliber as an auto pistol they have, for simplicity sake of only needing to stock one type of ammo it makes sense.
That was the original reason behind the M1917 revolvers in the first place.

 

[StrawHat]

I have experience with both a 1911 and several S&W 45 ACP revolvers. I prefer the revolvers for a variety of reasons. My brother is the opposite and likes the 1911. He also has a S&W but he uses it primarily to shoot loads that do not function in his 1911.

I have never been a big fan of Charter Arms but if they create a 45 ACP Pitbull, I would give it a good try out.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

While I see your point, I think the person who has/needs/wants a revolver in the same caliber as an auto pistol they have, for simplicity sake of only needing to stock one type of ammo it makes sense.

And I see your point also. I guess I view having a variety of guns that shoot totally different cartridges to be a well rounded collection. I like being able to shop for ammo and always finding something I can feed one of my guns. Like I said though, that's me, and I don't expect others to necessarily share my philosophy. I know some folks like to consolidate to only a few cartridges. I guess if I had more disposable income, revolvers of this type might be of more interest to me.

 

[C0untZer0]

If I had a revolver that could shoot 9mm parabellum, and instead of a moon clip I could load cartridges individually or take a speed loader and at the push of a button or twist of a knob have a complete reload, that would be great.

 

[Bezoar]

who wanyts to help with patent costs then?

 

[Jim Watson]

S&W did it with 547.
Ruger did it with an unproduced prototype Speed Six. (They went to clips because their piano wire doodads like the current Charter gimcrack could not be counted on with Froggie ammo.)
I don't know how the Manhurin and Korth 9mm extractors work, but they have them.

Go shopping.

 

[CoalTrain49]

No. They aren't real popular. Everyone complains about the clips. They don't understand this or that. The concept is wasted on them just like pistol caliber carbines. They will never know the truth and I have no sympathy. I love my 625.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

The concept is wasted on them just like pistol caliber carbines.

Now those do make sense to me!

 

[C0untZer0]

The 9mm carbine still makes sense to me though it has been eclipsed by the 5.56.

If you aim COM and hit a bad guy at 50 yards with a 9mm bullet from a carbine, it is going to do about the same things as a 5.56 from 50 yards.

If you aim COM but miss a bad guy at 50 yards with a 9mm carbine, the bullet is going to travel another 60 yards or so and then the bullet is going to start to drop like a rock.

If you aim COM but miss a bad guy at 50 yards with a 5.56 rifle, you could end up putting a bullet through someone's window 500 yards away.