Rudy's Gun-Control Agenda

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Not that we all here do not know about Rudy but just another reminder of where he stands on the 2nd Amendment.

The link to the article is here:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=19883


Rudy's Gun-Control Agenda
by John Velleco (more by this author)
Posted 03/20/2007 ET


The 2007 version of Rudy Giuliani defends his past support of gun control as a necessary evil to fight crime in a big city.

When pressed recently about his views on the 2nd Amendment by Sean Hannity of Fox News, Giuliani attempted to tap dance around his gun-control record without alienating the 290 million Americans who don’t live in New York City. The former mayor told Hannity that gun control was “appropriate” for the city, but that states and cities should be allowed to make those decisions locally.

“So,” Hannity continued, “you would support a state’s rights to choose on specific gun laws?”

“Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem ... maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules,” answered Giuliani.

Apparently, in Giuliani’s America, law-abiding citizens in large cities would not enjoy the same constitutional liberties as the rest of the country. Are metro-Americans not deserving of the right to self-protection?

Disarming citizens because they live in a high-crime area is taking away the most effective means of self defense from the people who need it most. Creating mandatory victims is no way to fight a crime problem.

If Giuliani’s gun-control agenda were really limited “only” to big cities, that would be disturbing enough. But the record shows that Rudy continually tried to export his gun-control agenda to the rest of the nation.

The new Giuliani of states’ rights simply does not square with the mayor of the ’90s.

In 1993, Giuliani met with then-President Clinton to discuss national gun registration and supported the Brady bill, which had recently passed, but Rudy argued that it didn’t go far enough. Clinton, largely crediting Giuliani for the idea, enthusiastically sent Atty. Gen. Janet Reno off to develop a gun-licensing and registration system.

In May 1994, as the battle over the ban on certain semi-automatic firearms reached its height, Giuliani threw his support behind the ban. On the eve of the final vote, he noted that so-called assault weapons “have no legitimate purpose.” When the ban passed, Giuliani commented that “this is an important step toward curtailing the indiscriminate proliferation of guns across the nation.”

When a lunatic attacked innocent civilians at the Empire State Building in 1997, Giuliani used the tragedy to again push for gun control beyond his city’s limits: “We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons, and if in fact you do need a handgun, you should be subjected to at least the same restrictions—and really stronger ones—that exist for driving an automobile. ... Congress needs to pass uniform licensing for everyone carrying a gun.”

When Rudy did focus on city gun laws, which already were among the most stringent in the country, his effort was only to further disarm the law-abiding.

In 1998, Giuliani pushed a proposal that would require gun owners to use “trigger locks” on all firearms, thus rendering the guns useless in the event of an emergency. Such a law would be enforced, he said, through “criminal penalties and the revocation of gun permits.”

If Giuliani had a federalist conversion, it did not occur in his first six years as mayor, for in 2000, he again took his gun-control show on the road.

In becoming the first GOP mayor to launch a city lawsuit against gun makers, Giuliani complained that “less restrictive gun laws in other parts of the country” exacerbated the crime problem in New York City.

Giuliani is not only a long-time supporter of gun control, but his support was convenient to leading anti-gun Democrats eager for the appearance of bipartisanship. A big-city mayor supporting gun control is hardly newsworthy. The fact that Giuliani is a Republican gave the story its man-bites-dog angle.

In the midst of the fight over the 1994 crime bill and semi-auto gun ban, Giuliani escorted President Clinton to Minnesota to stump for the bill. The Minneapolis Star-Tribune noted, “Clinton seemed especially proud that New York’s Republican Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, as well as Philadelphia’s Democratic Mayor Edward Rendell, agreed to accompany him on his trip.”

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer (D.) also gleefully accepted Giuliani’s support of the semi-auto ban. According to Newsday, Schumer hoped Giuliani would “sway some skittish Republicans.”

In 1995, when a Republican-controlled Congress tried to repeal the gun ban, Giuliani testified against the repeal effort.

Federalism Façade

So if the new Rudy Giuliani in fact supports states’ rights in the area of gun control, it is a dramatic shift from the policies he has been advocating for more than a decade.

This flirtation with federalism is merely a façade, however, for in the recent interview with Sean Hannity, Giuliani assured gun owners that he supports only gun-control laws that are “reasonable and sensible.” He then went on to defend his support of the Brady bill and the semi-auto ban, which are neither.

Mr. Velleco is director of federal affairs for Gun Owners of America, a 300,000-member national gun-rights lobbying organization.
 
I sent back his "Team Rudy" propaganda with my handwriting all over the donation saying that I would never vote for a gun grabbing fascist and that i was supporting Fred Thompson :evil:
 
If only George Allen had won and not Webb ..... then we would have a real solid republican to run for President.
 
If Fred Thompson decides to run we'll have a very solid one and very electable too.

I agree, little biased here as he is from TN, but just to remind everyone that we Tennesseans were partially responsible for voting Al Bore out, so don't hold the bias against us.:D

Seriously though, Ole Fred is the first candidate that I have heard any interest in locally. Even most of the local Dems I talk to respect him and believe he would do his honest best for the country. The GOP better get a clue. Run someone we can support (doesn't have to be Fred) or we will go else where.
 
Interest in Rudy will fade soon enough.

Fred Thompson is certainly up there, and Ron Paul, but neither of these guys has a real chance.

Romney is a good man but the the polls kill him over religion, which is stupid since Mormons are EXTREMELY conservative.

Frankly we're looking at McCain at the end of the day I believe and unfortunately he falls somewhere in the middle, which is why he'll be chosen.
 
maybe Rudy, Obama, and Hillary will die in a car crash on their way to a Brady bunch meeting. We can only hope....
 
Frankly we're looking at McCain at the end of the day

At one point in time I believed (unwillingly) that too, however, no longer. I think McCain is damaged goods and in the presence of a strong candidate like Fred Thompson, the primary voters will never vote for McCain. Just my .02 cents.
 
Well, the President doesn't legislate. I wouldn't vote for Guiliani as my Representative or Senator, but as an executive, most of his strengths are used and most of his weaknesses become less relevant. At this point, I think he's acceptable. I don't think he'll sell you down the river. I feel like McCain would.
 
I could never vote for either Guiliani or McCain. Neither would be all that much better than Queen Hillary.

Could we vote for 'None of the above' and save the taxpayers all that money in saleries and expenses???
 
Car Knocker, you don't have many Mormon friends if you wonder about Mitt and gun control.
Actually, a number of Mormons I've talked to about Mitt question his commitment in this area, and others. Mormons are, at this moment, pretty divided over candidates. As an example, Gov. Huntsman supports McCain, Sen. Hatch supports Romney. All Mormon's aren't going to favor Romney because he's Mormon, any more than all Catholics favored John Kennedy because he was Catholic.

There's also a thread about this over at APS.
 
Mr. Guliani, I take it you would leave it to the individual states to decide where it's people would worship?

Mr. Guliani, I take it you would leave it to the individual states to decide if they would allow orientals to live there?

Mr. Guliani, I take it you would leave it to the individual states to decide if there should be freedom of speech?


:barf: :barf:
 
Well, the President doesn't legislate. I wouldn't vote for Guiliani as my Representative or Senator, but as an executive, most of his strengths are used and most of his weaknesses become less relevant. At this point, I think he's acceptable.
The President doesn't legislate, he EXECUTES. That's why they call it the EXECUTIVE branch. He's in charge of the FBI, BATFE, Federal Marshalls, etc.

I invite you to look at the activities of the NYPD under Rudy Giuliani, and then ask yourself if you want him in charge of the BATFE. I had the opportunity to live in a police state when I was in the 2nd Infantry Division in '81. All I had to do was walk across the DMZ into North Korea. I chose not to do so. I choose not to do so now. I will vote for Giuliani when Satan takes up ice fishing.

If Giuliani's "acceptable", would not Vladimir Putin be even moreso?
 
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What makes me sick is how Giuliani is hailed as...

and get this...

"The Hero of 9/11"

:eek: :barf:

He is not a hero of anything except statist agendas. He is a scumbag.
 
Choosing between a Socialst VS Communist

Two Tickets in the next Election:

Dem - Hillary / Obama [pres / vice pres] - seem more like communists
Rep - Rudy / McCain [pres / vice pres] - seem more like socialists

Since many pro-gun people like myelf would rather die than vote either option, I have a feeling the next election will have the strongest 3rd party vote since Ross Perot ... though obviously no 3rd party candidate will ever be able to win a presidential election.
 
What makes me sick is how Giuliani is hailed as...

and get this...

"The Hero of 9/11"

Yeah I missed it when he ran into the WTC to rescue folks. But I did hear all of the fire fighters and police who actually were there doing something complain that Ruddy Boy Screwed them on their Health and Disability insurance and had his lawyers argue that all of the ground Zero workers that got really sick and had the nerve to file for city benefits were faking it.:barf:

Unfortunately the Bong Boys in the MSM forgot all about this little factoid didnt they and they named him the Hero of 911.:barf:
 
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