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Well here in NJ we can run or hide but fight is probably out of the question for most of us since our Governor, the ex-federal prosecutor will not allow us the right of self-protection / CCL.......
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y0hj8h3IoxY
The video is a 15 minute talk by James Yeager on Human Reaction Time/ OODA Loop.
I listened all the way through and it is relatively safe for work, there are no Fbombs.
I added it because he specifically addresses something that both JohnKSa and Jeff White mentioned, the denial phase where the brain actually will tell you this isn't happening.
(Sometimes after a traumatic event your brain will try to do that retroactively and tell you it didn't happen)
Yeager talks about people that survive such events overcome that part of their brain and decide this is happening and I need to do something right now.
Finally he also mentions the fact that training must involve stress because skills learned without any stress can not be replicated under stress and how mental preparation plays a major part in successfully reacting to an emergency. Some thing as simple as knowing where the fire exits are in a theater
Why study rats, when so much work has been done with humans?
Well here in NJ we can run or hide but fight is probably out of the question for most of us since our Governor, the ex-federal prosecutor will not allow us the right of self-protection / CCL.......
wechlaus said:regardless of what people (from a safe distance/time) want to require me to resort to doing (ie, nothing useful).
In the Canadian Parliament situation, the parliament members went into a room where they barricaded the door, put the Prime Minister in a closet, and broke flagstaffs to use as weapons if the barricade didn't hold.Run hide fight is not actually aimed at a well armed populace, but instead at unarmed office type workers. Fight is the last ditch option, and generally involves improvised weapons. A hammer from a maintenance closet, a mop stick, a hot pot of coffee, your pocket knife, etc.
Run hide fight is not actually aimed at a well armed populace
I must disagree with you there. In a class taught by local (to me) law enforcement, a member of the audience asked about private citizens executing the "fight" portion of "run, hide, fight" with privately-owned firearms. The officer teaching the class answered that, since many Virginians have Concealed Handgun Permits, and Virginia has no-permit-required open carry, SWAT always drills with a non-uniformed good guy with a gun; sometimes simulating an undercover cop, sometimes an off-duty cop, sometimes an armed private citizen. His bottom line was, if you are a private citizen in lawful possession of a handgun, "knock yourself out." Better to defend with a pistol than with a carafe of coffee.
Its all theory until it happens, then grim reality of the occurrence, and hindsight/aftermath if you have survived.
I have to agree wholeheartedly to this. This happened to me about 20 years ago. I was living in Germany of all places and had a revolver suddenly pointed at my face. I froze up solid. Even had I been armed, which was not even an option at the time, I would have had no time to react defensively in any way. After I overcame my deer in the headlights moment, I was able to talk the guy down and walk away. He ended up being a crazy WWII vet who I was told was "harmless"I believe if someone had a weapon stuck in their face.................their order of response might change in a heart beat.
Not all who talk the talk can walk the walk!
I have to agree wholeheartedly to this. This happened to me about 20 years ago. I was living in Germany of all places and had a revolver suddenly pointed at my face. I froze up solid. Even had I been armed, which was not even an option at the time, I would have had no time to react defensively in any way. After I overcame my deer in the headlights moment, I was able to talk the guy down and walk away. He ended up being a crazy WWII vet who I was told was "harmless"
I have replayed this event many times in my mind with, honestly, no real conclusions as to how I would have acted differently with the experience I have now. While I don't believe I would freeze up again, it is difficult to know how will will react given a specific threat.
I think pondering these types of scenarios can be a very good thing. I had a church leader once tell me that one of the best things we can do in life to make good choices is to have some decisions already made up in our minds. When confronted with choices of honesty, morality, etc, we can already know what to do.
This mentality can translate over somewhat to defensive situations. I am not saying we have to spend our lives playing horrible scenarios in our minds, but pondering how we would react in these events at least gives our minds something other than a blank slate if we ever do get broadsided with a defensive situation.
What's the difference, here in NJ where 99.999 % of our citizens are unarmed / no CCL, including pocket knives, what chance do we have here....?