Sell SIG P220 for Ruger P97?

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I picked up a used west german SIG P220 about a month ago. I have had it to the range 3 times and truthfully I'm kind of disapointed by the accuracy! I'm not the best shot in the world but I can cover 8 shots with my hand out to 25 yards with my Mak. I have heard that the P220 is one of the most accurate out of the box DA/SA .45's on the market. I cant keep all 7 rounds on the paper with it! The trigger feels smooth but I the shots are all over the target (from 7-25 yards).

I had thought about getting a Ruger P97 before I purchased the sig, but I went with the better deal (and better resale). I made the mistake of trying out a P97 the last time I was at the range...WOW all shots in the black after 2 mags. Now I'm thinking of selling the sig to finance the ruger. Any input about I shoud do?
 
Well id say shoot what you shoot best, but i wouldnt sell my 220 for a p97. I will admit thou that the trigger on the rugers really suprised me for the price, their pretty damn smooth
 
Any signs of excessive wear on the Sig? Slide to frame play and rattle? Barrel look shot out? I've never known Sigs to be that inconsistent in terms of accuracy.

I don't personally find Rugers to fit my hand all that well, but the couple I've shot have been surprisingly accurate, for whatever that is worth. I'd agree with the suggestions of trying to spend a bit of money (if necessary) to get the Sig up and running correctly before I traded it in for a Ruger.
 
The gun is a police trade...carried alot, shot a little! No rattles and barrel looks great!

I have thought about the sig protection plan, but by the time I pay for shipping and the $130 for teh SPP...I'm out another $200!
 
IMHO the Sig P220 is twice the gun of a Ruger P97.

I'd really take the time to figure out why the P220 is not shooting as well as it should be.

Call Sig and tell them what is going on and maybe they will offer to check the gun out for free.

Steve
 
The Sig 220 is a very accurate pistol with a wide variety of ammo. They are not the easiest to shoot accurately by a long shot. I would keep it for awhile and puts some more rounds through it. You might just change your mind.
 
The Sig 220 is a very accurate pistol with a wide variety of ammo. They are not the easiest to shoot accurately by a long shot. I would keep it for awhile and puts some more rounds through it. You might just change your mind.
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I concur. I also bought a used 220, my first Sig. My first trip to the range was pretty disappointing. Perhaps the "most accurate out of the box" applies to those experienced with the Sig or just plain expert shooters. I have gotten much better, but I don't shoot it as much as my HiPower, so I don't expect to shoot it as well. After a layoff with it, I get back in the groove after half a box or so.
 
Whenever someone questions the accuracy of a modern pistol (especially something like a SIG P220), I ask 2 questions.

1.) What kind of ammo are you using?

2.) Are you sure it's not you?

Almost any gun you could pick up from a quality manufacturer is capable of a lot more accuracy than you are. I've shot a Jennings w/half the rifling rusted out of the barrel (recent range trip w/a friend, and that's all he has) - and at 25 yards I could keep all my shots on target using WWB ammo.

What's your point, Cuzz?

It's not your Sig... I'd be willing to bet almost anything that it's some bad habit you've developed somewhere along the line, or maybe the change from 9x18 to .45ACP.

If it REALLY is the Sig (which I doubt to the point I don't even want to acknowledge the possibility), I'd give them a call and work it out...

But I would NEVER sell a P220 for a Ruger ANYTHING...

I own Sigs and Rugers, whatever that's worth to you...
 
I had thought about getting a Ruger P97 before I purchased the sig, but I went with the better deal (and better resale). I made the mistake of trying out a P97 the last time I was at the range...WOW all shots in the black after 2 mags. Now I'm thinking of selling the sig to finance the ruger. Any input about I shoud do?
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No point in holding on to guns you don't shoot well. Call SIG, see if they'll do anything for you. If they can't fix it, sell it and buy what you'll shoot well.
 
I have shot the following types and quantities of ammo (all 230 grain) thus far:
-Aguila 150 rounds
-CCI blazer 100 rounds
-Speer lawman 100 rounds
-Wolf 100 rounds
-Magtech +p JHP 40 rounds

I dont think its a flinch moving up in caliber since I shoot my father-in-laws 1960 vintage colt commander just fine.
 
Don't see to many threads of people going from a SIG to a Ruger but if one works better for you, sounds like the right move...for you!
 
It could be the caliber jump that's causing your inaccuracy. I haven't seen you shoot, but alot of people that go from a smaller caliber (like your Makarov) to a larger caliber, with more recoil, tend to compensate by pointing the muzzle down just prior to the shot going off. This may not be you, but it's something to check. Try dry firing with a quarter resting on your front sight. Make sure the quarter doesn't fall off when you pull the trigger. Practice dry firing like that and then go to the range and test it out again.

Jason
 
Sig p220's are real soft shooting .45's. Have someone else shoot it, and see if its not you. If it is, then you need more practice, if its the gun, send it to sig.
 
Maybe the gun just doesn't fit you. I am pretty perplexed by your experience. I am a horrible pistol shot but I shoot the p220 pretty well.
Good luck,

David
 
t could be the caliber jump that's causing your inaccuracy. I haven't seen you shoot, but alot of people that go from a smaller caliber (like your Makarov) to a larger caliber, with more recoil,
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The Mak actually has a fairly sharp recoil.
 
I agree. The Mak is a harder kicker than any .45 I have ever shot.
I think if you like the Ruger, sell the Sig and get a Ruger with the money.
 
The Mak actually has a fairly sharp recoil.
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Wow, you think so? I'm talking about the origianl chambering, 9x18 Russian... you guys think there's more recoil than a .45? After shooting 230 grain .45 all day and then switching over to my friend's Makarov, the Makarov felt more like a pea shooter than a pistol. I guess recoil must feel different to different people.

Jason
 
I made the mistake of trying out a P97 the last time I was at the range...WOW all shots in the black after 2 mags. Now I'm thinking of selling the sig to finance the ruger. Any input about I should do?
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You tried the P97 and you know you can shoot better with it. If you have to spend an additional $200 to get the Sig to shoot as well as the Ruger, I would say sell it. You should get enough money to buy the P97 and have plenty of change left over for ammo. I've been very happy with my P97. Accuracy has been better than average and 100% reliable. For the record, the best group I ever shot was with my friends Sig P220. However, the accuracy wasn't $300 better than the P97. No sense having a gun you don't shoot well, IMO.
 
I wouldn't sell a Sig for a Ruger either....but I'm telling you that the Ruger will shoot...I shoot a P89, and am by no means a great pistol shooter, but that gun wants to shoot one ragged hole all the time....Rugers are great shooting guns a a great price, not quite the quility of the Sig, but not to be sold short either....
 
+1 on that sharp mak recoil. Its not like shooting full power .357's out of a snub...its just sharp, that's the best I can explain it. Everyone who has never shot a mak thinks "its only the .380's ugly cousin" but you notice it after a box or two of ammo!
 
I have a P97 and it may very well shoot better because of the weight of the pistol. I'm not a great shot, but I can hit what I aim at with the Ruger. And you are right, I have a "few" Maks and the recoil of the 9X18 is sharper than that of the Ruger 45acp.
Would I sell the Sig. YES! You buy what you shoot best. Keeping a pistol for it's name is silly. Muggers don't care about what name pistol you have. They just care if you can shoot it accurately. Sigs are nice, but if they are not for you, buy what you need. Not what gun snobs say you should have.
Ron
 
I'm biased in favor of Ruger so take this for what you will:

I'm with the guys who say sell it if YOU want to and get what YOU shoot best. I've shot Glocks, Berettas, HK's, and 1911's from Kimber, SA and Colt. Guess what I shoot best? Ruger.

Guess what I own and carry? Ruger.

Guess how PO'd my friends are who I outshoot with their $1000.00 guns vs. my $400.00 ones?

It isn't about the money you spend or the name on the side of the gun and it isn't a fashion contest. If you shoot a different gun better and you want to sell the one you have to finance it, it is no one's call but your own. Best of luck whichever way you go.
 
I personally tend to find direct blow backs in .380 or 9x18 Mak to be more problematic with recoil than heavier caliber pistols using some variant of the Browning action (or the Beretta 92's Walther P38 derived system, etc.). I'm not sure if "stronger" recoil is the right way to put it, but snappier and more of a handful to control than they'd appear to be simply looking at the relative bullet weights and foot-pounds of energy the different rounds are pushing.
 
I think that you should hold on to the Sig...I had the same problem with mine when I first got it...it does not shoot like any of my other guns...I shot it exclusively for a few months and my accuracy went up.
 
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