Mr_Flintstone
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I see a lot of discussion about these. Some have had really good experiences, and others really bad, so I thought a poll might be in order.
I don't know. It would be interesting to know. All the ones I've used have been from the green package as well. When they are gone, I intend to buy some of the new ones, if only to try them and see if they are as good as the others.Servicio SPP I've got mfg 2015 are in green & white packaging and I've had no issues. The OP from the other thread who had issues had Servicio SPP with different packaging. I wonder if his were newer and more problematic. It would be interesting for people who had problems to post year of mtg (or batch #) and packaging type to see if there's a correlation.
So you're saying they shouldn't charge a Hazmat fee because they are so bad that there's no possibility they will explode? That works for me.You are missing the 'I wouldn't touch those with a 10 foot pole' selection... that would be my vote.
That definitely plays a role as well. These really shine in brass that's been loaded many many times. The SD I see with these on 38 SPL and 357 Mag where I'm using brass that's been loaded 10+ times is simply amazing. The biggest challenge with these is new brass, and you really have to take extra care to make sure they are seated correctly.I shot 60 158gr Xtreme RNFP 38spl over 4.3 grains HP-38 using Servicio SPP today out of a Ruger Service Six. Flawless. These were from a 300 round batch I loaded yesterday. I prime them single stage on a Lee Classic turret press. Maybe they seat easier for me because I'm loading brass that's been reloaded many times and the pockets are not as tight as new brass. I don't even clean the pockets.
It’s funny you say this. Most of my reloads with these have been on well used .38/357 as well. I don’t even bother to tumble it most of the time, but I always clean the pockets with a Lee primer pocket cleaner. The only brass that I’ve had issues with is new Starline .32 S&W Long, but they were just a little tight. I had a couple failures to fire, but I found out later that they just weren’t seated all the way.That definitely plays a role as well. These really shine in brass that's been loaded many many times. The SD I see with these on 38 SPL and 357 Mag where I'm using brass that's been loaded 10+ times is simply amazing. The biggest challenge with these is new brass, and you really have to take extra care to make sure they are seated correctly.
Awesome explanation. That is what I was thinking as well. I'm wanting to try some of these if I can find them.I've gone through a few thousand now....flawless. All the problems guys have with these are 100% due to not seating deep enough. They can argue all they want...but that's the issue. They are metric, and seat tight. On presses like 1050's, 1100's, and Mark 7's....where you have positive seating with an adjustable primer seating system, there is never an issue with them if your equipment is adjusted correctly. On single stages, presses like the 650/750, or hand priming tools...where folks rely on "feel", they aren't getting seated all the way, because the feedback they are used to tells them it's seated, and it's simply not. If you can't measure at least .003 below flush on a seated primer, then it's not seated all the way, and your odds of a misfire go up dramatically depending on the gun you are using and how heavy the hammer drop is. Striker fired guns are more prone, DAO lightweight revolvers are more prone, guns with lightened hammers or other work (CASS guns for example) are more prone. All will run on these if the primer is seated all the way. If you can't or won't change your loading habits, don't buy them, pretty simple. In the small pistol, or small rifle arena, there is plenty of variety in stock, and no need to use something that doesn't work for you. If you want to use them, I suggest the following: decap your brass before tumbling. Apply a light amount of case lube (for pistol, I use lanolin:99% alcohol at 1:20), and let it dry thoroughly before loading. The cleaner pocket and the light case lube will facilitate easier seating. Prime a couple of pieces and measure the seating depth. This will help you to establish what you should "feel" when seating one of these primers, and you can retrain your muscles accordingly.
I have ordered recently from these folks..........very good experience ordering with them...Awesome explanation. That is what I was thinking as well. I'm wanting to try some of these if I can find them.