Sexual Predators on the Loose! (find out if they are in your area here)

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Great. Just f'ing great.

I live in a town of about 2,700 and we have 8 according to that site :fire:

We probably have a dozen small children on our block alone, and more on the way, and we have 8 sex offenders in our sleepy little town. :cuss:

Unbelievable.

I.G.B.

Edited to add, I just found out that my co-worker is on that list too :what: . Kinda suspected that though, but just wasn't sure.

I.G.B.
 
Interesting info about someone I know who is a "Registered Sex Offender":

This guy is not terribly bright. He's online, chatting up "girls" in a chat-room, when one of them asks him to come over to her house. He, being a lonely loser, agrees and drives right on over.

Suprise! It was a sting. Cops bust him for sexual misconduct with a minor (or something similar), because the imaginary "girl" was supposed to be 14. He claims he didn't know how old "she" was (of course). The cops claim they pretended to be 14. I think he's probably lying about the age thing, but there's no reason to think he would have actually tried to have sex with a 14 year old. Like I said, he's a lonely loser, and shy too, so the most likely thing that would have happened, had there been a real girl, would have been them sitting there in uncomfortable silence for a while.

Of course, he can't afford a lawyer, so he pleads in exchange for deferred ajudication, with one glaring caveat: he's now a registered sex offender for the next 16 years. Not only that, his "crime" is shown on the registry as sexual assault of a minor, and his "victim's" age is shown as 14. He's also listed as "moderate risk".

Now, I'm not defending him or proclaiming his innocence, but I do find it disturbing that you can be convicted of a crime and be reviled as a sex offender when the only "victim" is an imaginary one. It would be wholly different if the sting involved a real girl that was interacted with before the cops swarmed in, but it didn't.
 
Don't Be A Vigilante!

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May I point out that "such a solution" is NOT appropiate here. I know because I was the victim of an attack with deadly force that nearly killed me. Why? I have the exact same name as a notorious child molester. That's right, lots of people in my small town assumed I was the other guy. In fact, I'm not a child molester or felon of any type. The clear need for self-defense is what sparked my interest in guns and I now carry CCW.
If you remember the entire movie, "The Star Chamber" gets disbanded when they realize they've killed the wrong guy.
Don't take the law into your own hands.

Safe Shooting,
Dave
 
Daniel T. said:
...Now, I'm not defending him or proclaiming his innocence, but I do find it disturbing that you can be convicted of a crime and be reviled as a sex offender when the only "victim" is an imaginary one. It would be wholly different if the sting involved a real girl that was interacted with before the cops swarmed in, but it didn't.


I know what you mean. If there was no victim, there is no crime. Some of the tactics they use reek a little of "thought police" stuff. Now if they want to go about developing a law against conspiracy to have sex with a minor, similar to conspiracy to commit murder I think I would be fine with that. But what they're doing is almost like being arrested for conspiring to kill our non-existent female president.

Excuse me now while I go finish my day off with the original Manchurian Candidate, THX1138, Fahrenheit 451, 1984, and maybe Red Dawn and Falling Down thrown in just for good measure...tricksees little Thought Polices. :scrutiny:
 
Anyone know about the legality of sending letters to their addresses suggesting that if they ever even look like they might be planning to mess with our kids they might wind up dead?

With no return name/address?

Somehow I dont' see my local Sherriff's dept. investigating a case of threatening letters to child molestors too fervently...
 
Now, I'm not defending him or proclaiming his innocence, but I do find it disturbing that you can be convicted of a crime and be reviled as a sex offender when the only "victim" is an imaginary one. It would be wholly different if the sting involved a real girl that was interacted with before the cops swarmed in, but it didn't.

But what your acquaintance DID demonstrate is intent.

The victim here is hardly imaginary...the victim is EVERY 14 year old girl and their families.

I don't know how I feel about the guy being convicted of assault when no assault took place...that's a little unjust. But he's certainly not squeaky clean either.

You can just tell him he's lucky it wasn't my sting op and he wasn't coming to my house to visit my little girl.
 
In no way did I post this website with the intension of ANYONE taking the law into their own hands. I received this email from a friend and felt it was very useful since I have two children a son of 11 years and daughter that just turned 14. I feel that it's important for us as parents to be AWARE of these preditors and the website is a perfect tool to inform any and all parents of the danger that could be just next door.

My thougts are, if this website causes parents that read it and find they have a pedophile in their area to be more careful about where their kids play, what time they get home and keeps parents that live around these creeps to be more aware of what's going on in their neighborhoods, it may save a lot of grief. I'm against ever letting this type of criminal go free. But, we have to live by the laws if we are to be around to protect our families in times of need.

Read...be informed....BE AWARE, and stay safe!!
 
BTW SF,CA has tons of sexual predators & I mean TONS

If I was going to visit I'd make sure that I had something with me.
 
Now, I'm not defending him or proclaiming his innocence, but I do find it disturbing that you can be convicted of a crime and be reviled as a sex offender when the only "victim" is an imaginary one. It would be wholly different if the sting involved a real girl that was interacted with before the cops swarmed in, but it didn't.

But what your acquaintance DID demonstrate is intent.

The victim here is hardly imaginary...the victim is EVERY 14 year old girl and their families.

I don't know how I feel about the guy being convicted of assault when no assault took place...that's a little unjust. But he's certainly not squeaky clean either.

You can just tell him he's lucky it wasn't my sting op and he wasn't coming to my house to visit my little girl.

I understand what you are saying neon,

But likewise you have to judge intent based upon action. Frankly sexual predation and assault should be a capital offense in most cases. I myself am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, and so my outlook on these sort of things most of the time is with biblical glasses on. Of course that is Jewish law, and we aren't Jews. Well, probably not most of us here anyway. So where as I see that law is not for us, those laws in themselves are righteous in judgment. So what I am saying is the bible would say shed their blood and move on.

Anyway, my point here now is not the ideal, but what we're stuck with. Which is the US of America, where litigation reigns. And wicked men go free. But on that same note this country was founded to be a very "hands off" system. And one of those points is to not make intent a crime, but illegal action with intent a crime. So in this scenario we have everything leading up to the crime, but not the crime itself. Which again, if you want to get a law on the books for "conspiracy to commit sexual misconduct" or something along those lines I am perfectly fine with that. That's why I said Thought Police. Once you start judging intent it get's real gray, real quick. And we start down the slippery slope of "what about this, what about that". Suddenly you don't have a principle, but a whole book of rules. Well, we're kind of at that state now anyway...but I digress.

Let me give you a for instance, what if the ATF started trying to arrest people on NFA weapons charges?
But their only proof that you own one is because you said you did on some internet forum somewhere? I am of course assuming for the sake of discussion you don't illegally own one, yet they arrest you anyway because you said you did.

Or you said "I hate <insert President of choice here>, and I am really wanting to do something about it? So they arrest you for assassinating the President.

Or how about this, you buy a nice shiny new Camaro, and the cops arrest you for speeding before you even pull out of the sales lot? Why? Because the only reason to own such a car is to speed.

You see what I mean by Thought Police?

It's supposed to be that they arrest you for something you did, not what you were going to do. Except in certain circumstances. Like conspiracy to assassinate a world leader or something. The law systems is supposed to be more like an umpire, they aren't supposed to call you out before you reach the base.

As for thought crimes, I don't know who here can say they aren't guilty of thinking something that would be punishable by the court system? Hey, I am a felon, just not a convicted one. :D
 
DANG, three in a couple of blocks from my house :cuss: .
One is about 75 feet from an elementary school bus stop!
Thanks for posting the link.
 
Randall53 asked,
Why doesn't the gun control crowd focus their energy on a REAL PROBLEM? These freaks are killing children yet they are trying to disarm America??

Randall53, I am guessing from your query that you don't understand a couple of significant aspects. First, gun control proponents are a special interest group. Their focus is gun control, not crimes like killing children. By the same sort of logic, you could ask why pro-gun groups don't focus their energies on the REAL PROBLEM of killing children.

I dont' see the connection between not focussing on killing children and trying to disarm America. Children can't carry guns, so the children are not being disarmed. Plus, most children killed in violent crimes are not killed when they are with protective guardians. So even if the guardians had guns, they would not be able to defend their kids when they are most likely to be killed, when not present with the guardians.

A major reason why gun grabbers want to disarm America is not that they are intending to reduce personal safety, but that guns are often used in crime, making it easier to be successful in the crime. If nobody had guns, then it would help put criminals and potential victims on a more level playing field. The playing field is not level because most criminals have much more power since they choose to arm themselves for the crimes and the potential victims usually do not.

Of couse, their logic is hugely hypothetical and has no real life societal proof.
one of the major arguments used by gun control proponents. It
 
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I'm shocked and saddened that it's taken the horror stories in the news recently to get people to realize these websites are available. I've kept track of my neighborhood for years and I don't even have kids yet. It boggles my mind that many people with children -- my own sister among them -- are on the web every day and have never bothered to check their local sex offender registry.

Don't know how accurate it is, but it's better than nothing. I know offenders through my previous job as a teacher at a sex offender facility who are not listed, and I'm sure there are people on the registry who pose no threat to anyone. Also, a search of my local paper's archive turns up sex offense convictions on the guy who lives two doors down and cuts my grass, but he isn't on the registry. So while I don't think it's perfect, I am all for checking it out.
 
What if you find out one of these people lives near you ?
What if you find out one doesn't live near you ?
What does this information do for you ?

I saw something about this on the "news" tonight. They interviewed a random women who of course had two young children for dramatic effect. She said she was going to go to the website and find out what areas she should avoid. :barf:
She appearently believes that if she doesn't go to "those" neighborhoods, she is immue.
This whole thing is ridiculous on so many levels.
 
What if you find out one of these people lives near you ?

Well, at least then you know if your kid is playing in the yard and the phone rings, you don't want to say "Hey, Bob, would you keep an eye on Junior for a minute?"

That's the main thing I take from them. I still let my resident offender cut my grass when he needs beer money.

What gets me is how in at least one of the recent cases, the offender was dating the parent of the murdered child. I'd say rule number one if you have kids is how about not dating convicted sex offenders?
 
I too, have been keeping track of these people in my area for several years. Someone asked "So what does having this knowledge do for you?" In MPLS, they post pictures and more info about these folks. I have the pics up on the fridge so that my wife and her folks who babysit know what these guys look like in the off chance they should ever see them. As has been said before, it pays to know your enemy and these guys are the enemy of all of us.
 
Appreciate the info on risk numbers.

I had no intent of doing anything with the information other than informing my wife. It seems like a good thing to know since this class of offender is very likely to re-offend.
 
Double Naught Spy said:

I dont' see the connection between not focussing on killing children and trying to disarm America.

Actually, my original feelings were, and still are, that all the energy being spent on trying to disarm lawfully armed Americans by attacking a constitutional right would be much better spent on petitioning the powers that be to correct the justice system that is allowing these preditors to re-enter society. Three deaths in the past month by child molesters that were allowed to go free should raise alarm in anyone.

It just amazes me that people can ignore great evils in society while they try to push their will upon others. This includes the gun control crowds and the animal rights groups fighting to outlaw hunting and fishing. These are activities that have been around for centuries and I have personally enjoyed for over 45 years, yet these groups want to take them away from everyone, yet not a peep over real (not perceived) dangers in our great country.

As far as pro gun groups go, we have been forced into a defensive position to expend our money and energy on preserving the 2nd Amendment BECAUSE of the anti gun - anti 2nd Amendment crowd. If everyone would just live their own lives the way they feel is correct for THEM, then the way I see it everyone in America could focus our energies on the problems at hand, raping and killing children being one of these.

The reason this country has been envied for many years is the fact that everyone could lawfully live their lives as they felt they should, unless their actions damaged or took away/interfered with others rights. Now, there are those that want to dictate to others what is the proper way to live. This confounds the whole system and takes away from the real issues at hand. People will buy a houses next to a bar/firing range/chicken farm etc (and know it!!)...that has been in business for years and then go through all kinds of litigation to try and close it down because they don't want to live close to a bar/firing range/chicken farm.....This is ludicrous!!! Why not just buy a house somewhere else?? That kind of crap just wears me out!!

It's the same with gun control. Never mind that criminals are going to have guns no matter what the law says.....let's disarm legally armed citizens because "I'm afraid of guns"....Apparently these people feel their rights take precident over everyone elses. It's very apparent from the recent law passed in Florida that even something as fundamental as the right to defend one's self is restricted in many states!! I'm supposed to retreat from a burglar in my own home? Who the heck is that going to protect? Why the burglar of course!! We don't want to restrict his right to be a criminal now would we?What's supposed to make him decide to leave? After he's raped and/or killed my wife or daughter in the next room while I retreat to a back room or go hide in a closet? Yeah right....

I'm too damn mad to type anymore.... :cuss:

good night all!!
 
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If nobody had guns, then it would help put criminals and potential victims on a more level playing field.
Actually, the exact opposite is true. If nobody had guns, then the strongest and meanest would always prevail over the weakest and meekest.

Edged and impact weapons depend on the wielders strength. Only guns level the playing field by allowing anyone with a reasonable level of dexterity to defend him/herself against a larger attacker.


Back on topic ... I don't believe that there is any safe neighborhood. It's nice to know who to not hire for a babysitter, but you need to keep a close eye on your kids everywhere and anytime. Mayberry is no more :(
 
"Two in my zip code, both at the same address."

Well, that's handy. They can diddle each other and leave the neighbors alone. Maybe we should suggest pairing off of these creeps.

Our town is so far from the mainstream of life, we only have one and he hasn't done anything in 13 years.

Maybe I'll call him and see when he's going to make news again.

But, seriously, this is a good site.

Thanx,

rr
 
What if you find out one of these people lives near you ?
What if you find out one doesn't live near you ?
What does this information do for you ?
I've kept an eye on the county sex-offender site for several years, and have made a point of looking carefully at the faces in the photos.

My teenage sons often earn money by mowing other people's lawns. Before they go out, I always double check the address against the sex offender database, and every couple of weeks we run past the photos. The kids know that if they see any of the faces in the photos while they are out and around, they are to keep their distance from the people, and immediately call home and I'll come get them.

If I had a daughter who wanted to babysit, you can be dang sure I'd be using those sites for the same purpose.

You cannot keep a teenager at home all the time -- you have to let them grow up. But you've got to balance that necessary freedom against safety, and those web sites are one more tool to let you do that.

pax
 
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