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deadin
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Same State, yes, Different State, no.
Yep, if he's in a different state, nope. Have him pick it up next time he visits, or if that's not practical, go to Gunbroker.com and use their FFL finder. Find a transfer FFL near him (usually a $20 fee), and mail it to them. Then it's just the postage and another $20 to get it back.
calaverasslim
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yes/no
If he lives in the same state, your good to go.
If he lives in another state, he is going to have to come pick it up or find a dealer close to him that will handle a transfer. Some dealers will accept a shipment froim a non-dealer, (you), and some will not.
If not, then your going to have to use a dealer to handle the transfer also.
Best he drive down and pick it up.
If he lives in the same state, your good to go.
If he lives in another state, he is going to have to come pick it up or find a dealer close to him that will handle a transfer. Some dealers will accept a shipment froim a non-dealer, (you), and some will not.
If not, then your going to have to use a dealer to handle the transfer also.
Best he drive down and pick it up.
Shadow 7D
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Can't you send a rifle to yourself? Would this be different?
deadin
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Yes! The law is concerned with possession, not ownership. When you mail it to yourself you have to be the one that opens the package at the far end.
(i.e. there's no change of possession.)
deadin
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In this case it would seem a little silly. The owner would have to come up to where the gun is and mail it to himself at home. Then go home and open the package.
When mailing to yourself, you have to be both the sender and the one that actually opens the package on the other end.
When mailing to yourself, you have to be both the sender and the one that actually opens the package on the other end.
Shadow 7D
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OK, badly worded, how would it differ from mailing it to himself, as he still owns the gun.
Or just taken it back on the plane for free as luggage. Seriously, just find a $20 transfer FFL near him and mail it to the FFL.
Or it gives him a reason to fly down to AZ in February from Michigan and pick it up...
I've got a relative in the snowbelt around there who routinely allows family members to ride his Harley from there to the Pacific Northwest in the late fall just as winter creeps in ( I mean, who knew it could snow for two days straight the whole length of Montana in Septemeber? Let me tell you how I found out...). Then his wife is forced to let him fly out to ride it those pretty 2,000 miles back in the spring. Claims he's just doing it to be generous...
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NavyLCDR
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jbech123 said:
The problem, in this case, is the shipping/mailing. Since it is his gun, no transfer of ownership is required. The problem is you can only ship it out of state to an FFL, who will then have to a formal transfer just because he is an FFL. He would be the only one that could deliver the gun to the shipper for shipping back to himself.
If someone private can take the gun with them to hand deliver it back to it's owner, that is no problem, no FFL transfer would be required then.
mgkdrgn
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Well, it looks like we are down to two choices then:
1) FFL transfer
or
2) Enjoy YOUR new gun!
mgkdrgn
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NavyLCDR
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