i love sigs but the cz 75 compact is really nice. i like the cz becuse its all steel & sao. i love my sig 226 .40 it is a great shooter & always goes bang. i saw a used p229 9mm no rail for $650 i also saw a brand new cz for &550 or so. im torn i think the cz would last forever but i still dont know how long the alloy frame sig will last. this would be used for carry sometimes along with my kimber pro carry. it is definitely between these two firearms. i already have a beretta 92, sig 226 .40, cz 82 9x18, kimber pro carry in .45 & 9mm. since im familier with sigs is their is there any problems with the cz to be concerned about? which one should i go with?
sig 229 9mm or cz 75 compact sao
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dairycreek
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Buying the CZ will result in a handgun that is at least as high quality as SIG but for a lot less money. I do not mean to deprecate SIG but it is definitely over priced - particularly when compared to CZ!
DenaliPark
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I happen to agree with this, CZ is a better performer then the Sig in my experience, at a better price point.
schmeky
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^^ This ^^
Never shot a CZ pistol, but the Sigs are very nice. None of the 9mm's have had any trouble lasting. The P229 was designed as a .40, so I imagine it will be just fine as a 9.
Wasn't there a recent thread, 4 or 5 pages IIRC, about CZ's and their problems?
Parts breakages, extraction issues, heavy SA triggers, plastic parts.......
Not to bash CZ's, I love their rimfire rifles, and almost bought a CZ 75 SA instead of my latest Sig (P228), but doing research, I've found far more issues with the CZ's.
I spent $500 on a used P228 from 1994 instead of a $500 on a new CZ 75 SA, I think I made the right choice.
Great trigger, great ergo's, top shelf accuracy, reliable.....
Overpriced? Not to me, you only pay for quality once.
Wasn't there a recent thread, 4 or 5 pages IIRC, about CZ's and their problems?
Parts breakages, extraction issues, heavy SA triggers, plastic parts.......
Not to bash CZ's, I love their rimfire rifles, and almost bought a CZ 75 SA instead of my latest Sig (P228), but doing research, I've found far more issues with the CZ's.
I spent $500 on a used P228 from 1994 instead of a $500 on a new CZ 75 SA, I think I made the right choice.
Great trigger, great ergo's, top shelf accuracy, reliable.....
Overpriced? Not to me, you only pay for quality once.
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Another vote for the CZ.
The CZ will be AT LEAST as accurate as the Sig. Sigs are fine pistols, no doubt. But everyone will chime in with t heir favorite. But my CZ has always far exceeded my expectations when I bought it used with only a few test shots down the barrel from the original owner. It is very accurate, never had a jam in ~1500 rds and eats anything I feed it. I bought it for $390. I wish I could have bought another at that price.
The CZ will be AT LEAST as accurate as the Sig. Sigs are fine pistols, no doubt. But everyone will chime in with t heir favorite. But my CZ has always far exceeded my expectations when I bought it used with only a few test shots down the barrel from the original owner. It is very accurate, never had a jam in ~1500 rds and eats anything I feed it. I bought it for $390. I wish I could have bought another at that price.
m500'92
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There's a big difference between being over priced and actually having to pay your employees, Sig probably pays 4 times as much as CZ for their workers to make the guns. That would probably be the main difference in the price. (It'd be like saying a Colt's over priced compared to a Norinco, not really in the same category) I'd go with Sig.
The Lone Haranguer
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I have a 75D Compact PCR and have owned a SIG P228. They are virtually the same size - even fitting into some of the same holsters - and weight. The SIG had - note the past tense - a little smoother trigger action, but just did not fit my hands and I never shot very well with it. But you can't go wrong with either. It really comes down to personal preferences.
I just bought a Sig P229 E2. It was slightly used (200 rounds) and at a price point I thought was reasonable. Since I have smallish hands, it works for me... really well. I haven't taken it to the range yet since I just bought it yesterday, but it points very naturally and feels great in the hand.
I have a lot of trouble reaching the DA trigger on CZ's, so there's really no question which I prefer.
I have a lot of trouble reaching the DA trigger on CZ's, so there's really no question which I prefer.
The Lone Haranguer
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I was unaware that the Compact comes in a SAO version. I see railed and conventional frame versions on CZ-USA's website, but no obvious SAO.
SwampWolf
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Viking, though I have largish hands and don't have any problems adapting to conventional SIG grips, when I tried my mitts on a new Model 226 E2, well, I simply had to have one. Friends that I've talked with that have had trouble acquiring a good grip on typical SIG pistols have tried the E2 version and they, too, found a huge, positive difference with it.
If you actually measure the differences in dimensions beween the two formats, you will find they are very small indeed. But, like so many firearms where subtle changes in dimensions make all the difference to individual users, the small difference exhibited by the E2 configuration can make all the difference to some shooters.
I would advise anybody who is considering the purchase of a self-defense pistol but who have dropped SIG pistols from their choice list due to ergonomic reasons to handle the new E2 models. You might be pleasantly surprised.
If you actually measure the differences in dimensions beween the two formats, you will find they are very small indeed. But, like so many firearms where subtle changes in dimensions make all the difference to individual users, the small difference exhibited by the E2 configuration can make all the difference to some shooters.
I would advise anybody who is considering the purchase of a self-defense pistol but who have dropped SIG pistols from their choice list due to ergonomic reasons to handle the new E2 models. You might be pleasantly surprised.
its their all steel version it says da/sa but it doesn't have a decocker so its more like a sao. like the (cz 82) i put that in here so as not to confuse it with the decocker model which does not have a manual safty & is alloy. but yes it will fire after being manually decocked. sku#91190
Jed Carter
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I have a P229 and a CZ PCR, my daily CCW is the CZ, really like both but the SIG's slide is too wide to carry IMO. I thought about the CZ 75C but went with the 75D PCR the Novak style sights, loaded chamber indicator are nice to have, and if I'm not mistaken, the CZ 75C is a steel frame vs the alloy frame on the PCR.
I've had both and between the two, if you're going to use it for carry, I'd choose the Sig 229...the weight does make a difference at the end of the day. The alloy frame of the Sigs are very strong and the non-rail 229 is rather rare nowadays.
The 9mm 229 is a much nicer gun than it's heavier .40 siblings and is a close match for the flawless 228. the shorter (heightwise) slide of the CZ has always been a bit harder for me to get a solid purchase on during manipulation drills...but then I grew up with the 1911.
The E2 variant looks really interesting. I'm not a huge fan of the short trigger as I believe it unduly compromises your SA trigger press, but the re-contoured backstrap and mainspring strut (and mainspring) look like they are really going to be winners...plus the lack of grip screws make the grips look sleeker.
When the E2 grip parts become available separately, I think they are going to be a big seller
The 9mm 229 is a much nicer gun than it's heavier .40 siblings and is a close match for the flawless 228. the shorter (heightwise) slide of the CZ has always been a bit harder for me to get a solid purchase on during manipulation drills...but then I grew up with the 1911.
The E2 variant looks really interesting. I'm not a huge fan of the short trigger as I believe it unduly compromises your SA trigger press, but the re-contoured backstrap and mainspring strut (and mainspring) look like they are really going to be winners...plus the lack of grip screws make the grips look sleeker.
When the E2 grip parts become available separately, I think they are going to be a big seller
Steelshooter101
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I have a CZ75D and has the alloy frame so weight is not to bad. It is the most comfortable gun to shoot I have the low bore axis helps a lot with recoil and recovery. It don't do to bad on speed plates matches either.
sansone
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whichever feels better in your hand would be my choice. I spent way too much money choosing a 9mm personal defense pistol and after many disapointments I chose the one that felt most comfortable in my hand. Unfortunately for me it was a BHP so my wife was pissed $$
$$I love my CZs, but finding things like holsters is a pain. Right now I am looking for either a compact or a P-01 to go with my two 75Bs.
Finding holsters is far, far easier for the SIG.
All that being said, it's interesting to note several Federal agencies are giving up their SIGs and going to GLOCKs.
Finding holsters is far, far easier for the SIG.
All that being said, it's interesting to note several Federal agencies are giving up their SIGs and going to GLOCKs.
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CZ 75 B SA for sure. The Sig feels like a brick, the CZ feels like an exstension of your arm.
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