Sig or Glock in .45ACP for Carry?

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looks like you have a good assortment of different platforms. That's what I wanted to do at first, you know, to have a well rounded collection of the big namers. But I found that it threw off my practice sessions at the range. Too much of a hassle to get to know the different platforms. I have since sold pretty much everything else an dstuck with 1911s and Glocks.

My opinion . . . carry the .45 in the platform you shoot best.
 
I own several SIG's and Glocks.

amoung them the Glock's in 21 and 30
and the SIG in 220.

Your criteria was weird, reliability is number one but you do not care about double strike capability? I find that very odd.

any way.

per your criteria the selection is simple:

SIG


First you don't have to check for the serial number to see if it being recalled in the Glock non recall.

Both my Glocks have had their barrels replaced with BAR-STO barrels to preclude any KB problem. This is has only been a problem with the 40's and 45's. By the Way I have not heard of the problem with a model 22 Glock.

The primary weakness of the glock system is that their magazines suck. I tried the model 17 3 different guns. Each time over a 10 year period some how some way the magazines would screw up. By the way if you went to the tactical forums you would hear from real world operators complaining about the problem with Glock magazines, the liners carrode and screw up.

If you care enogh to use the very best SIG!

Begin the flames.
 
Responses such as I'm seeing are the reason I joined this board to begin with. Excellent questions, excellent criqiques from "real-world" shooters.

I'm not one to fall for hype, so I'm gonna do some of my own reasearch and hands-on testing first, but ladies and germs, you may have created another SIGAHOLIC! I want any handgun I spend my hard-earned shekels on to be reliable out of the box, without having to spend 2X what I paid for it to make reasonably sure it doesn't puke on me if I need it.

The experience I've had with a friend's P-226 had been nothing but satisfactory, so when my poverty-stricken hide can afford it, methinks a P-220 is in order. This many people singing its praises MUST mean something. I can eat Ramen noodles for a while and save my loot. If it will get me a gun as good as these folks say it is, it's worth it. Like I said, I'll test-drive it first if I can.

Probably take a fair amount of time and noodles, but when I procure the critter, I'll let y'all know. You've gotten me all antsy and eager...hmmm...bound to be some stray pop cans laying around...:D
 
If you think the P220 won't work for you, then you won't like the G21. It is a BIG pistol and is no lightweight with 14 rounds of 230g ball on board.

I shoot the G21 better than any other Glock, but there is nothing like a SIG; IMO, they are the best out-of-the-box combat pistols available today.
 
You mentioned you already have one Glock. How has your experience with it been?.

Has it been reliable?. Do you shoot it well?.

If you're happy with a Glock in .40, why wouldn't you expect to be just as happy with one chambered in .45?

You are already familiar with the Glock manual of arms.
As someone mentioned above, having multiple pistols that look, feel and handle the same is a good point.
 
I'm not a fan or a critic of either SIGs or Glocks. I find the SIGs to be top heavy and they don't point as well for me as the 1911 - I usually pull it up to a point where I am looking at the back of the slide, not in line with the sights.

If carrying open, I would definately lean towards the 1911A1 over the SIG or Glock. If carrying concealed, the G36 might get my attention.
 
I owned several Sigs for years inlcuding the P226 and P220.Unless you know a Sig gunsmith who can do a fine Sig trigger action job on it, you won't shoot it to its full potential. And most Sig owners don't even think about a trigger job for their Sig. So you'll need to spend a $100 at least to get that done.

I consider them both to be excellent weapons for duty carry, competition, and range training. However, for civilian CCW where IWB is the standard for carry, the P220 is a challenge due to its exposed hammer spur. Caught my love handle way too many times.

And more than a few people including myself reported rust spots on our Sigs. Even after I breakFreed it faithfully and regularly. So I'd recommend hard chroming at least the slide or some other metal treatment. Another $120. Several broken trigger springs with my P220 and that was it. Sold them both.

For an all around jack of all trades 45 ACP, I'd recommend the Glock 21 or the Glock 30 is you like a smaller more compact version. I've also owned both and prefer the G21 for all around work including winter carry with some 230 grain Hydrashoks or 185 grain +P Rem Golden Sabres to bring on the heat.

And since you already are familiar with the Glock system, you don't have to adapt.

But skip the Glock 36, great only for CCW but with the low cap and think backstrap, it recoils harder than my Glock 32 in 357 sig. Mixed reviews on that one even at GT.

If you go with the Sig P220 or P245(chopped P220 that is super glued to my gun shop cases), you 'll have to adapt to a DA/SA trigger pull. Didn't many law enforcement agencies move from Sig to Glock? Was not just cost.

The FBI Academy Firearms Instructors used to teach grounding your first DA shot to get to single action for better accuracy. Mastering that first DA shot from a Sig is just as difficult as from a SW revolver. Another reason why agencies moved from revolvers and that DA pull.

When you shoot the P220 and G21 side by side, you find that the Sig is just a tad more accurate at 25 yards in single action, but that it recoils more.

Thus, you can get tighter groups with the Glock due to less recoil but for target shooting, slow fire, the P220 may get you better accuracy.

Right out of the box, the Glock offers a reliable, durable, so what if it scrathes, accurate gun. The Sig needs some work. Sweet but not as versatile.

Had them all and I carry the Glock 21 when I don't think the Glock 20 in 10mm is warranted.
 
I own the 220, 21, and 30. Were I to pick one for carry it would be the 30. For reliabilty and accuracy they are all pretty much equal. I personally am able to shoot the 30 more rapidly than the other two. It is ruggedness and durability were the Glock edges SIG as SIGs require a bit more attention to avoid rusting unless you go with the ST model (rails... blech). I personally do not mind a large framed all stainless gun for carry but some feel they are too heavy. I have shot the 36 before and did not care for it.
 
Own a Sig 220 and a HK uspc .45

use both for work

both more accurate than I am

Can't go wrong with a Sig thou if it is a either, or kind of problem.
 
Both the Sig P220 and Glock 21 are large handguns.
Both are superb..
Both would "fit the bill".
Both are accurate and reliable.
Buy the one that fits you best.
If price is an issue,get the Glock 21 (It's the one that I own.)
If price *isn't* an issue, get the Sig P220.

... my 2 cents worth. :)
 
I carried a Glock for 4 years and the one thing I noticed is that even though I abused it and hardly ever cleaned it, it didn't rust. I had casings rust a little from sweat, but never the gun itself. I don't know how you plan to use yours, but I'd at least consider the chore of maintaining it. I love the Sigs but Glocks are awesome and not expensive.
 
Have owned a Glock 21 and a Sig P220. Still have the P220, sold the G21. Quite happy with that state of affairs, personally. The Glock 36 is pretty good, but I find the double stack .45 cal Glocks to be dreadful in terms of grip and such (and I have big hands).

If the ergonomics work for you, however, I will say my G21 was utterly reliable (one misfire due to a bad round -- the pistol always did it's part). It's a solid performer if you don't mind a grossly oversized grip (Gaston never heard of metal magazines, I suppose) and the Glock grip angle.
 
This is the longest between posts in a single thread I've ever seen. Four years. Talk about rising from the dead.
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That's true. It's ancient history now. Wonder which one he chose way back when.

This thead also, due to its age, doesn't mention the fact that the P220 is now available in single action only. They also claim they solved the rust problem, and the trigger is claimed to be very crisp now. Don't have one, so don't know if its all true.
 
Navy Seals also like Glocks. Rustproof and with the kit installed will function underwater to take out BGs. A lot neater than using a knife. If you're looking for a the "SEAL" of approval I guess you're stuck.

Sigs are nice but I've always been turned off by their price. I have G21 and G30. I looked at the 36 and when I compared it next to the 30 it was smaller but not that small to make a diffrence and went with the 30. I had the 21 before I got the 30 but would have just bought the 30 if it had been on the markrt then.
 
I own a G30, P245, and a P220. None of them have ever failed to fire. I use good ammunition, and keep my guns cleaned and lubed. All three are accurate and totally reliable. It's often quoted but true. Pick the one that fits your hand and needs the best. They are all qualtiy guns and I have and do carry any of the three with absolute confidence. In my experience they all three can be trusted to potect life and limb. really can't go wrong with any of the choices.
 
Defoote says it best...if for carry the G36 rocks but the G30 is almost as good with 4 more rounds...just got back into the 45 acp realm with a 1911 and am now looking at my G19 as if it is too small to stop a school girl..but the darn thing points so nice!!!!!
 
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