"This form is used to obtain permission to temporarily or permanently move your registered National Firearms Act (NFA) machine gun, short barreled rifle or shotgun, or destructive device interstate. Persons other than qualified federal firearms licensees (FFLs) or government agencies are required to obtain this permission."
Sorry didn't read at text quoted correctly. Yeah you don't need the form for suppressors.
No one knows the future as to when they might have to defend themselves. If you are suggesting sticking a can on the end of a self defense weapon, nah not for me. Wielding a pistol with a can in the hallway in the dark, would be a hindrance and require different training. My 1911s and revolvers are not threaded anyway and don't plan to start. Now when I do have to get up to take a hog off the back porch in the night, I grab my muffs and then the 10mm pistol. To each his own...
If only you would stop here, but then
I guess it could be a hindrance if one makes poor choices, but my CZ P10c with the CGS Mod9 sk attached is lighter than a standard 1911 and nearly the same OAL as most 6" revolvers. I'm curious though as to just what training I need though?
Yep folks have different circumstances, touching off a unsuppressed 10mm to dispatch the skunk last year would have been tough to explain to the cops when they showed up. With a suppressed 22 I just waited til daylight and found the dead skunk with a mysterious head wound and called animal control.
Look obviously you are a fan and if you read my last sentence "To each his own". As far as training, if you are gonna stick something extra on the end of pistol you best run drills with it. I don't keep 6" revolvers for self defense purposes. I do keep them for hunting and range work. I don't have to worry about the cops coming when I shoot at my house. That .22 won't do a thing but piss off a hog. Again, "To each his own". Carry on...
It's not the pigs, its the gun+silencer+cartridge+ ...........wait for it....................................distance.
Uh......yes it is.
Horsehockey.
Some states you can't own eleven round magazines. AGAIN, if you OWN a silencer, there is nothing else required as an owner.
I'm not the one inventing requirements that don't exist.
There are requirements to PURCHASE, there are no further requirements or restrictions on OWNERSHIP.
I was mistaken on the crossing state lines thing but it is not the same because you are require to purchase or transfer before you can "OWN" and ya likely carry paperwork for the suppressor when ya are out n about in case of interaction with LE... at least most folk do... as far as some people thinkink a tax is due yearly many do not know what the requirements to own NFA devices are- BTW do you actually own any NFA tools?
Na. Ours have played the game too often. They get shot at and they roll out. The good news is that I can usually go a couple fields over and find them again, or find a different sounder, but even shooting them from 400 yards, they usually roll out and stay out of that field for the remainder of the night.
Look it's not really about being a fan or not.
Just a word of advice. Before asking a a question like that of a member on a forum such as this, it's worth clicking on their screen name and doing a quick skim of their posts in other threads.
No federal law or ATF regulation requires you to carry a copy of your Form 1 or Form 4, so, ya, it is the same.
No kidding.
Three Short Barreled Shotguns, Four Short Barreled Rifles and about a dozen silencers..............you?
I shoot next to suppressed center fire rifles at the range fairly often. Even with the can, most of them are still far too loud to not be wearing ear protection, IMO.
Where are you getting that you don't need hearing protection (again, talking center fire)? This is from the SilencerCentral webpage:Spoken like someone who doenst have a clue.
And if you go back and read and educate yourself, they do quiet full sized rifle gunfire to the point you don't need ear protection.
www.silencercentral.com
From personal expereince. As I've said a number of times now, I shoot a couple of different 5.56 guns from my carport without hearing protection and my ears are fine. I cant shoot one round of 22 lr in the same place unprotected without losing my hearing for a couple of days. If I shot the 5.56 without the suppressor I wouldn't be able to hear for who knows how long, and probably not recover some. With the suppressor, there is basically no muzzle blast and my hearing isn't affected like it is with the 22 without protection.Where are you getting that you don't need hearing protection (again, talking center fire)? This is from the SilencerCentral webpage:
The BANISH 30-GOLD brings a user-serviceable, quick-detach suppressor design that is lighter weight, shorter, and quieter than anything we have ever tested. You won’t find a lighter and quieter can anywhere!Banish 30 Gold Package – Silencer Central
Shipped to YOUR Front Door. Nation’s Best Selling Multi-caliber 100% Titanium User-Servicable Silencer. Tested Quietest & Lightest. Pay While You Wait!
An exceptionally versatile suppressor, the BANISH 30-GOLD is rated for calibers from rimfire up to 300 RUM. All BANISH suppressors have been designed for unmatched sound suppression, and testing shows that the BANISH 30-GOLD reduces the report by 36 decibels. The average sound level heard by shooters from the BANISH 30-GOLD is 132.9 decibels!
133db is far louder than what anyone recommends the need for hearing protection.
So I'm curious how you are finding otherwise.
What is your source for that info?
Repeated noise above 70 dB over a prolonged period of time will damage hearing.
I agree on the range part, and I have seen that statement about 70 db before. Not exactly realistic, since every day life is louder than 70 db. Doors closing, dropping a book, traffic driving by, using a hammer, etc. etc. are all louder than 70 db. I'm not arguing against using ear pro while using a suppressor. What I am saying though is that the idea that it doesn't make a difference since ear pro should be worn either way is ridiculous.
