GBExpat
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I think that krinko was exercising his Silly Gene ... and, if that is the case, I would not be surprised to find that the "fool" in that photo is either krinko or a friend of his. 
SKS for an Enfield No.5 MK1?
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ApacheCoTodd
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As a guy who has both.
I'd have to know whether or not you had more than 1 SKS and if they are readily available in your area.
If NO to both of the above than no, keep the SKS.
If you have more than one or can get an SKS in the 300s at the very next show - hell yes, go for the trade.
Real No5 Mk1s are a treat to shoot and just to look at.
-.303 is not that problematic a round to find.
-Future legalities on ownership are about nil.
-Meandering zero (I won't use the other word in order to not assist the internet rumor mill) WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT BE AN ISSUE FOR YOU. Even if one were to get one of these mythological carbines which hadn't already been identified and addressed by the British military, the collector value remains.
-They are wonderfully practical go-to guns for behind the cabin dooror pick-up truck seat.
-They'll easily drop most any game in North America.
yup, I'd likely do the trade if you are certain that you can identify the Enfield as a true "Jungle" and not a build-up.
Todd.
I'd have to know whether or not you had more than 1 SKS and if they are readily available in your area.
If NO to both of the above than no, keep the SKS.
If you have more than one or can get an SKS in the 300s at the very next show - hell yes, go for the trade.
Real No5 Mk1s are a treat to shoot and just to look at.
-.303 is not that problematic a round to find.
-Future legalities on ownership are about nil.
-Meandering zero (I won't use the other word in order to not assist the internet rumor mill) WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT BE AN ISSUE FOR YOU. Even if one were to get one of these mythological carbines which hadn't already been identified and addressed by the British military, the collector value remains.
-They are wonderfully practical go-to guns for behind the cabin dooror pick-up truck seat.
-They'll easily drop most any game in North America.
yup, I'd likely do the trade if you are certain that you can identify the Enfield as a true "Jungle" and not a build-up.
Todd.
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rduchateau2954
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Well I don't enjoy shooting the SKS so I wouldn't buy another, but yes they are $350 all day here.
The pics show the lightening cuts on the barrel so if it is a fake, it's a very good one.
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The pics show the lightening cuts on the barrel so if it is a fake, it's a very good one.
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ApacheCoTodd
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Aw hell, there you go then. If you don't enjoy the SKS and can replace it anyhow - do the trade. You'll love that Enfield, they just have a "feels right" thing about them.
There is a bit of a surprise in shooting them though. That slim hockey-puck grade rubber butt-"pad" can really be not-fun if you're not ready for it. Proper care in butt placement and pressure as well as a decent jacket reduces it to nil.
It or the FR-8 was the beginning of my mil-surp carbine craze:
Todd.
There is a bit of a surprise in shooting them though. That slim hockey-puck grade rubber butt-"pad" can really be not-fun if you're not ready for it. Proper care in butt placement and pressure as well as a decent jacket reduces it to nil.
It or the FR-8 was the beginning of my mil-surp carbine craze:
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Depending on condition, I'd lean towards the Enfield as they are not as readily available as SKS rifles. That said, I wouldn't trade. I'd offer cash as SKS and Enfields are no longer being produced and as as result, are only going up in value.
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rduchateau2954
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I get what your saying, however the Enfield is worth more, and if I'm going to have a milsurp that goes up in value, I'd rather have the enfield.
Plus it's always bothered me to own a gun that's been used against Americans. Although I do want a Mauser so maybe I'm just nuts.
Mauser, Springfield, and a M1. Although I'm kicking myself for not buying a half dozen mosins years ago. Told myself to do it, but never did.
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Plus it's always bothered me to own a gun that's been used against Americans. Although I do want a Mauser so maybe I'm just nuts.
Mauser, Springfield, and a M1. Although I'm kicking myself for not buying a half dozen mosins years ago. Told myself to do it, but never did.
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adding to the dangerous situation's dangerousnessitude.
The horror!
-----krinko
LOL. I wondered if it was a selfie. I gotta get one of those anti-recoil shirts.
Sistema1927
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In other words, krinko is telling us that the recoil of the .303 in the No.5 is a non-issue.
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rduchateau2954
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And if it is, is just because we are great big girlie men.
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tark
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Not every one is a sissy when it comes to recoil, Krinko. To call someone a fool just because he is man enough to handle recoil without some extra padding is a sign of limited intelligence. Or perhaps a little envy?
As for the mixed calibers on the bench, please explain HOW this is, in any way, dangerous? You cannot chamber ANY of those calibers in any rifle other than the one that is chambered for that particular caliber. 30-06 rounds do not chamber in .303 rifles, and vice-versa. 7.62X54 rounds will not chamber in either one. Since it is impossible to fire any of these calibers in the wrong rifle, where is the danger?
And what's up with all the whining and hand wringing over a #5s recoil? It isn't any worse than an 03 Springfields. Man up!
As for the mixed calibers on the bench, please explain HOW this is, in any way, dangerous? You cannot chamber ANY of those calibers in any rifle other than the one that is chambered for that particular caliber. 30-06 rounds do not chamber in .303 rifles, and vice-versa. 7.62X54 rounds will not chamber in either one. Since it is impossible to fire any of these calibers in the wrong rifle, where is the danger?
And what's up with all the whining and hand wringing over a #5s recoil? It isn't any worse than an 03 Springfields. Man up!
shuvelrider
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If your focusing on the "recoil anticipation" when you squeeze the trigger, then your not focusing on the fundamentals of hold, sight picture, trigger squeeze , and follow through. Maybe that's where all the drifting, wandering , lazy zero came from . To me that was an overplayed myth, same as the recoil discussion. Enjoy that #5 you got.
. To me that was an overplayed myth, same as the recoil discussion. Enjoy that #5 you got.
DougW
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The rubber pad keeps the rifle from slipping around in the gun rack (might be it's primary mission). Otherwise, it hurts more than it helps. Replaced with a new one from Numrich, didn't help a bit. The pad does more harm than good.
I have shot matches with one of my #5, didn't do so well, but it is a blast to shoot!
I have shot matches with one of my #5, didn't do so well, but it is a blast to shoot!
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rduchateau2954
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I didn't get murdered!
Straight up trade for my Norinco. Bore looks/looked brand freaking new. Stopped at a range halfway home and shot the box of 180gr that came with it and a box of 150 gr that I bought.
Cheap box of fed blue box was $35 at scheels. The same in 30-06 is $20.
Recoil is nothing guys, less than my buddies TC 30-06. Even with a rock hard recoil pad. Trigger is amazing and the bolt cycles so smooth.
Still can't believe that guy wanted to trade. My buddy and I were joking around saying we were surprised it didn't come with a box of 19 rounds.
Pictures when I get home.
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Straight up trade for my Norinco. Bore looks/looked brand freaking new. Stopped at a range halfway home and shot the box of 180gr that came with it and a box of 150 gr that I bought.
Cheap box of fed blue box was $35 at scheels. The same in 30-06 is $20.
Recoil is nothing guys, less than my buddies TC 30-06. Even with a rock hard recoil pad. Trigger is amazing and the bolt cycles so smooth.
Still can't believe that guy wanted to trade. My buddy and I were joking around saying we were surprised it didn't come with a box of 19 rounds.
Pictures when I get home.
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shuvelrider
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I would have to imagine that rubber buttpad was pliable and functional at the time, the composition probably dried out quickly to what we see today on those rifles. Really no different than steel toe plates on old sporting rifles.
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rduchateau2954
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Unfortunately it was too windy for anything long range. Was really looking to try that flip up sight.
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Traffer
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Yay for you. I was actually eyeing that one up myself but had nothing to trade for it. There are so many people who love the Enfields that the value will do nothing but go up. They are the slickest bolt actions ever in my opinion. If you reload even the ammo price is not problem. I just can't figure why a person would want to trade one for a SKS. Maybe ammo price if they don't reload? Like you said the recoil isn't so bad. Enjoy!
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rduchateau2954
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I'm thinking he just wanted an SKS and didn't feel like dealing with the bs of selling one and buying another.
If you want to shoot it let me know. The public range in Shiocton is really nice.
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rduchateau2954
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Here she is.
With range accessories:
75 yards in what had to be 40-50 mph winds.
Right is a scoped 30-06, left is the Enfield. Shot the '06 after and compensated for the wind a bit better.
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With range accessories:
75 yards in what had to be 40-50 mph winds.
Right is a scoped 30-06, left is the Enfield. Shot the '06 after and compensated for the wind a bit better.
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Shanghai McCoy
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That's a Deal, deal for sure. Nice looking rifle.
GBExpat
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The rifle looks great, rduchateau2954, but fyi that is not a Nº5 bolt.
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rduchateau2954
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Que?
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GBExpat
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The bolt handle knobs on Nº5 bolts were hollowed-out to reduce weight.
GunnyUSMC
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The tread was a no brainer. You could sell the Jungle caebine for $450 to $550 any day.
I have over 20 Enfields, one is a No5 Jungle Carbine. It's a fun gun to shoot. Milsurp ammo is getting hard to fine and when it comes up for sale it goes fast. I bought a bunch a few years back and still have around 200,000 rounds.
The factory loaded 303 is not as hot as some of the military stuff and it's non-corrosive.
I bought another No5 in elexent shape from a friend about 6 months ago for $500 shipped to me. It was just to pretty so I sold it to a friend that had just started collecting for $550. He had just over paid, $600, for a No1 MkIII. I also sold him a No4 Mk2 for $400 that was in great shape.
You did great on your tread.
Oh! Your carbine has a No4 bolt. The No5 bolt has a large hole in it. There are No4 bolts with holes in them but they are smaller then the ones in the No5s
I have over 20 Enfields, one is a No5 Jungle Carbine. It's a fun gun to shoot. Milsurp ammo is getting hard to fine and when it comes up for sale it goes fast. I bought a bunch a few years back and still have around 200,000 rounds.
The factory loaded 303 is not as hot as some of the military stuff and it's non-corrosive.
I bought another No5 in elexent shape from a friend about 6 months ago for $500 shipped to me. It was just to pretty so I sold it to a friend that had just started collecting for $550. He had just over paid, $600, for a No1 MkIII. I also sold him a No4 Mk2 for $400 that was in great shape.
You did great on your tread.
Oh! Your carbine has a No4 bolt. The No5 bolt has a large hole in it. There are No4 bolts with holes in them but they are smaller then the ones in the No5s
It's my understanding that some of them got No 4 bolts when they were refurbished.
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rduchateau2954
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Sob! What's that mean for my rifle? It has the relief cuts under the hand guard.
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