So...are you an offset or a piggyback kind of MRDS backup person?

[FL-NC]

I had the A2 type on mine at Hood. Lol at my surprise giving the supply kid my weapons card and then seeing him give me a new one along with the M4. The 723 uses an A1 CH upper but with the A2 shell deflector, and at the beginning had pencil barrels and later the M4 because of M203 requirements.

I saw some like this in afg. some of the guys on the fly-by-night contracts were using. Who knows what mothball arms room they came from.

 

[mavracer]

We still had some XM177E2's in the arms room when I was at Ft Devens. I think they even had a couple of the original optics for them too.

XM177s inspired this build

 

[The_Quartermaster]

I saw some really old guns of this vintage in afg. the air force EOD guys were carrying.

Check this out:



Was issued to her.

 

[12Bravo20]

I saw some really old guns of this vintage in afg. the air force EOD guys were carrying.

The Air Force has always been known to keep everything and have lots of mix master rifles and carbines. I saw old M16 lowers (not A1) along with plenty of GAU 5 lowers in Air Force arms rooms when I was in Germany.

 

[FL-NC]

Thanks for that, it does connect the dots here.

Since you guys are so small, you may have actually served with or at least heard of him. Jeff gives a really good breakdown at the unit level. I was really surprised that there wasn't enough of things for everyone at times.

I was in 5th group 91 until 99 before I moved to a different assignment, but I didn't know him there but I dimly recall him from Ft Bragg later on (we worked in different units at the time on Bragg). His videos reminded me of a lot of stuff I had forgot. I remember using older items pre-SOPMOD like the old aimpoint 5000 or 3X BLITS scopes and small surefire lights that would clamp to the front sight post. I had totally forgot about that junky light that took all the AA batteries, cause the unit got us the old black surefires. I do remember what a hunk of trash the trijicon reflex was. I know for a fact we had the first M4's in 5th group for the anticlimatic haiti mess (1994), because of the last-minute exercise of stripping everything off the older guns, mounting it all to the M4's, and getting those things tested and zero'd for the trip. He may have been in one of the battalions that got their stuff later. There was no consistency in the earlier days in the mid to late 90's and on in what was in circulation- it wasn't even weird to see people using a M4 with pre-SOPMOD stuff like a aimpoint 5000 mounted, and mixed up components from the various kits along with things a certain unit may have procured, along with items an individual team guy may have got on his own because he liked it. I ended up using a VLTOR stock and buying all my own QD mounts for my optics, for example, and I would use a surefire X200 pistol light on my M4 rail, with a scout on my shorty upper. In some cases, things that were "phased out" were still maintained in inventory and continued to be used as long as they worked and someone wanted them. I disagree with him on that specter- IMO it was too big and heavy for what it did. The winning optic back then (if you were lucky enough to be somewhere they were available) was the 1-4X S&B short dot, otherwise, I like the 4X ACOG better for a magnified optic. I went to a non-operational position in 2008 and retired in 2010, so there is quite a few things he used that I never used or saw.

 

[3Crows]

My one and only AR has a Nikon 1-4X20 scope on a QR mount. If it fails I can then pop it off and flip my Magpul sights up. My piggyback RDS is a Romeo5 atop my 4-12X40 scope on my .25 Marauder Super Light:

 

[mavracer]

Range trip to zero the new offset irons and the red dot on my 22. The 45° offset is really growing on me.

 

[taliv]

An advantage of being left handed is the offset optic doesn’t interfere with brass catchers. (Brassgoat partially pictured)

mice warmed up to the 1.9” mount height which raises the head up a bit at expense of cheek weld. I don’t like going higher.

Out of curiosity for those who like mounting on top what zero do you use?