South Korean protestors show we in Ameirica are less free than they are

[LoadAmmo]

What would happen at a pro-freedom ralley if Second Amendment supporters had huge 10ft poles and were wacking the police protecting Diane Feinstein and Chucky Schumer? We'd probably be machine gunned to death.

...I think it's time people start to put 2 and 2 together and realize we live in a Militarized Police State... it's just a benign version (i.e. they aren't raiding us door to door yet and there aren't checkpoints... yet).

 

[Don Gwinn]

We are less free because we would not be allowed to form a mob and beat people with big poles?

I'm pretty sure I can live with my loss of the freedom to assault, injure and kill people, thanks.

What on Earth is your point?

 

[feedthehogs]

Not knowing under what pretense the protest is taking place, one cannot comment on the methods used.

 

[WeedWhacker]

Please excuse the huge, flying leaps I'm about to make:

If the alleged protesters were gathering lawfully and the alleged police/security/armored beetles were unlawfully assaulting/dispersing the alledged protesters, I could see a case for the criminal element being subdued by citizens. Not the wisest case.

Whew, all that leaping has done tuckered me out.

 

[Sistema1927]

We are less free because we would not be allowed to form a mob and beat people with big poles?

+1

There is a huge difference between mob violence and peaceful assembly.

 

[ravencon]

Large scale demonstrations and riots are the South Korean national sport. It is culturally insensitive to criticize them.

 

[Molon Labe]

Based on the photos, it would appear the police were in fear of the people.

If an assumption can be made that the people were defending their inalienable rights, then this is a very healthy situation, as it is a symptom of liberty.

In a free society, the government should be in fear of the people. Or as TJ once stated, "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

 

[Gordon]

Arn't they Commie symps?

 

[Manedwolf]

Where did they get all the big poles?

When everyone has a an identical, massive whackin' pole, not just objects picked up from the area, it's hard to believe they didn't plan SOME sort of use with them.

 

[WeedWhacker]

North Korea is very much different from South Korea.

 

[GoRon]

This is how progressives in other countries demand more goodies from their government.

They probably are demanding 35 hour work weeks or better health care.

 

[Don Gwinn]

If we assume the people were defending their inalienable rights, then

. . . . then we have made a very large leap of logic, indeed.

Large scale demonstrations and riots are the South Korean national sport. It is culturally insensitive to criticize them.

My apologies. . . .

 

[Manedwolf]

As for South Korea, their legislative sessions ARE kind of amusing to watch. Considering they sometimes devolve into a free-for-all brawl of middle-aged guys in suits that looks something like if a WWF match spilled into the stands and kept going.

 

[WeedWhacker]

As for South Korea, their legislative sessions ARE kind of amusing to watch. Considering they sometimes devolve into a free-for-all brawl of middle-aged guys in suits that looks something like if a WWF match spilled into the stands and kept going.

Especially when considering that our very own legislature had very similar brawls in its early years (and possibly much later).

 

[Maxwell]

I think what would happen is you'd get a mouth full of pepperspray... thats not unexpected. Just because someone has the right to protest does not mean they have the right to destroy property and assault officers.

Recently Ive come to the conclusion that its not so much what your protesting for, but who you are.
I was watching the University protest where students celibrated their first amendment "right to smoke pot", and their right to "privacy in a public area" so they wouldnt be found and jailed for the misconduct.

Charge them with a felony? No, felonies are only for poor people.
Charge them with damaging the sprinklers from walking on the lawn!

Another group was protesting their "right not to see any religious symbol" while illegal immigrants last week were protesting for their "right to break the law and not go to jail".

Meanwhile Ive got a right to bear arms that, unlike these other examples, is actually spelled out in the constitution... and that right has been on hold for the last month while the local police run yet another background check on me because apparently its not a "real" right by the gov's interpritation.

The world is a screwy place.

 

[Soybomb]

Actually in Illinois we commonly have police checkpoints...its to catch drunks you know.

 

[jashobeam]

I saw a video clip online of a demonstration which took place in an Asian country (the consensus was that it was North Korea). The police officers had very tall shields that they were scraping across the ground in an effort to sharpen the bottom edge. When protestors got too close the frontline officers would strike out with their shields, directing the bottom edge at the protestor's face. Very brutal. IIRC the protestors kept on coming. If I saw that I would call it a day, or move to the back of the mob where it is safe.

 

[Justin]

This is how progressives in other countries demand more goodies from their government.

Kind of like a piñata.

I saw a video clip online of a demonstration which took place in an Asian country (the consensus was that it was North Korea). The police officers had very tall shields that they were scraping across the ground in an effort to sharpen the bottom edge. When protestors got too close the frontline officers would strike out with their shields, directing the bottom edge at the protestor's face. Very brutal. IIRC the protestors kept on coming. If I saw that I would call it a day, or move to the back of the mob where it is safe.

I would seriously doubt it was North Korea. In a nation where people have been sent to the gulags for singing South Korean songs, a protest like that would have simply resulted in them all being killed.

 

[Car Knocker]

I wonder if Koreans can spell the name of their country better than we can spell the name of ours (Ameirica?)?

 

[JohnBT]

"I think it's time people start to put 2 and 2 together "

South Korea?

Write when you get there, I'm staying put.

John

 

[c_yeager]

The opening statement of this thread only makes sense if you take the assumption that the police in those photos dont have a right not to be beaten with wooden poles.

Based on the limited information shown in the photos it doesnt appear that the police are reacting aggresively, which would indicate that they are expected to tollerate assaults from mobs. Mob rule is not anything even resembling freedom.

 

[Warren]

Nine out of ten policemen polled said: Damn! That friggin hurts!

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

...I think it's time people start to put 2 and 2 together and realize we live in a Militarized Police State...

You think WE live in a militarized police state and South Korea is more free than we are? Having been to South Korea myself, color me skeptical on that count.

Frankly, I think personal experience with South Korea (who is one of the more successful democracies in the region) would make you reconsider your assessment; but I do always get a big laugh out of such assertions.

 

[2TransAms]

This is how progressives in other countries demand more goodies from their government.

They probably are demanding 35 hour work weeks or better health care.

As opposed to the US,where we just vote the guys in who give us what we(we=people most likely to vote for them again)want. No violent protest necessary.

Since I don't know why they are beating on the police (who seem to be taking it quite well) I will withhold judgment on who's right or wrong here.

 

[Justin Time]

Where did they get all the big poles?