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OK, I'm old school, 68, veteran, lifetime shooter. I just bought a Glock 43X for concealed carry. Any gun without a manual safety scares me. I'm an 1911 person but all the ones I have are too large for conceal carry. I know I need a holster to prevent snagging and accidental discharge....why are stryker pistols all the rage now? I dont understand why no manual safetys hardly anymore.
 
Fair assessment. In my experience as a veteran, mechanical engineer, risk management professional and over 30 year defensive weapon user, they are a solution to a question that didn't need to be asked, and present multiple serious safety concerns. I only carry weapons either have a full-stroke, full-weight DA trigger (preferred), or that have a positive manual safety. My overall preference is a non-energized firing system, with classic DA/SA w/decock or DAO autoloaders and DA/SA, DAO or SAO revolvers being prime examples. This makes my interest in the latest high capacity polystriker pretty low.
 
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I’m not as experienced as the OP but have been carrying a handgun around (Deputy Sheriff) both on and off duty for over a decade. I only carry handguns with no safety, but then again I was trained originally in the mid 2000’s with a Glock.

At this point in my ingrained mind, I personally won’t be packing a pistol with a safety because I’d not be bright enough to switch it to fire in the moment of truth.

The patrol rifle is another story….we don’t get enough training at work so I’ve done a lot of up drills and dry fire to make taking her off safe intuitive… I hope.
 
I just bought a Glock 43X for concealed carry. Any gun without a manual safety scares me. ....why are stryker pistols all the rage now? I dont understand why no manual safetys hardly anymore.
The obvious question would be, "If you're uncomfortable with a striker fired gun without a manual safety, why would you not have chosen a striker fired gun with a manual safety?"

The one that immediately comes to mind, that beat out the Glock for the US Military contract, would be the M17 and M18, which both come standard with a manual safety. If you don't want to buy a military version, the civilian version of the SIG P320 can be had with a manual safety.

An older striker fired pistol that could be had with a manual safety is the S&W M&P series

The reason that striker fired pistols are currently popular is their light weight, easy maintenance, and reliability
 
Just an odd sidenote here:

No matter which type of handgun (or rifle ?) Israelis use, they are always carried with an Empty Chamber, unless this has changed in the last five years or so.

The guy who instructed our "mall shooter class", Ben Goldstein, served in the IAF and then worked in private security. He showed a technique they use to chamber a round after drawing the handgun.

I would hate to carry a gun with an empty chamber, and then need to move a Safety lever also. Their LEO "turn-in" (like my S&W 6904) handguns all seem to be DA/SA.
 
OK, I'm old school, 68, veteran, lifetime shooter. I just bought a Glock 43X for concealed carry. Any gun without a manual safety scares me. I'm an 1911 person but all the ones I have are too large for conceal carry. I know I need a holster to prevent snagging and accidental discharge....why are stryker pistols all the rage now? I dont understand why no manual safetys hardly anymore.
The striker fired polymer pistols have certainly established themselves for their simplicity of construction and for their cost-effectiveness but, above all, for their simplicity of use in case of need. Another of their winning points is the fact that the trigger weight is the same from the first to the last shot and therefore you don't need to practice transitioning from the first DA shot to the next SA ones. Furthermore, it is not necessary to practice disingage the safety before shooting even if, as has already been pointed out, there are stiker fired pistols with the thumb safety (I myself have one, the Taurus G3). The thing I don't like about the vast majority of striker fired pistols is that it is not possible to re-hit the primer in case of a misfire; there are exceptions such as the Taurus G3. In short, the success of striker fired pistols was probably determined by the fact that they are very similar to revolvers in their use.
With striker fired pistols it is very important to be careful of two things: the first is that you have to pay particular attention when inserting the pistol in the holster because you have to be careful that nothing can enter the trigger guard (shirt or t-shirt flaps, cord of the jacket, etc.) otherwise there is a risk of accidental discarge like happened many many times to negligent owners; also with the striker fired pistols it is better to choose a rigid kydex holster instead of a leather one. The second is that you have to be careful when disassembling the gun because for most striker fired pistols it is expected to pull the trigger in order to field strip the pistols.
The Glock 43X is a great choice for concealed carry, especially if you choose to use Shield Arms magazines which increase the capacity of the 43X from 10 to 15 rounds; in case you will also need to install the aluminum Shield Arms magazine release.
 
I dont understand why no manual safetys hardly anymore.
The biggest factor behind the absence of manual safeties, in my perception, was Glock's marketing effort to appeal to agencies that were moving from revolvers to semi autos, and to emphasize the trigger safety. It made some sense in that context, with sidearms more likely to be used for business, and training focused on the new gun.

For my situation, I am more concerned about an unintended discharge than I am about getting the gun into action quickly, so I prefer the option of using a manual safety. Now that you have a gun without the manual safety, you no longer have that "two factor authentication". Now it's a matter of retraining, but no harm in swiping a safety lever that is no longer there.
 
Most of my carry pistols have safeties. I currently carry Shield Plus sans safety. The M&P safeties aren't tactile enough to be comfortable for me, but the numerous other features of the gun outweighed the desire for a safety.

Perhaps the OP felt the same about the Glock he purchased.
 
Most of my carry pistols have safeties. I currently carry Shield Plus sans safety. The M&P safeties aren't tactile enough to be comfortable for me, but the numerous other features of the gun outweighed the desire for a safety.

Perhaps the OP felt the same about the Glock he purchased.
Given that the OP seemed to be under the impression that striker fired and manual safety are mutually exclusive, I suspect the reason he purchased the 43X was more about convenience and lack of knowledge than anything else.
 
I've long owned and loved striker fired handguns and I imagine they are as popular today as they were a century ago. My oldest striker fired pistol was made in 1913 but all of the modern striker fired pistols I own or have owned have also had safeties. My current modern striker is a S&W Shield 9mm 2.0 with the manual safety. Smith at least has pretty much always offered a choice so I can have my manual safety in addition to the other safety features.
 
Well, he did state...
Which mean's basically nothing, without more context. I encountered plenty of "lifetime shooters" when I was a CCW instructor. That by itself doesn't mean they know anything, really, beyond a general idea of how to make the guns they're familiar with make noise. The OP gave the very strong impression that he thought that striker fired pistols don't come with manual safeties. I think he/she just didn't know any better, when he/she bought the 43x.
 
Requisite PRON added:

S&W Shield 2.0 9mm with safety:
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Reasonably nice, consistent triggers at a reduced cost, and the setup allows smaller footprints than typical DA/SA or SAO guns.

As noted, there are small concealable guns that can be had with safeties, M&P, 365, I think the Hellcat?

But if you don’t have a safety and are worried about it, there’s a few things to consider. Easiest is to get a holster that’s easy to clip or snap on and off. Holster the gun off the body, then clip the gun to your belt and, here’s the part some folks seem to have issues with, leave it alone. No risk of discharge while trying to holster.

If the worry is accidental discharge while drawing your gun, then that’s just an issue with drawstroke and can be handled with practice and dry fire.

If the concern is the gun just going off in the holster, I guess you’ll need a new gun because I don’t know how to help there except carrying for some time with an empty chamber and cocked striker until you accept it’s not going to fire on its own.
 
Which mean's basically nothing, without more context. I encountered plenty of "lifetime shooters" when I was a CCW instructor. That by itself doesn't mean they know anything, really, beyond a general idea of how to make the guns they're familiar with make noise.
Valid points, but since all you know about the OP stems from an internet forum, it is still conjecture... as was my post.

These "Safety" discussions occasionally pop up and rant on like the caliber war threads, which may be the honest intent of this one.
 
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OK, I'm old school, 68, veteran, lifetime shooter. I just bought a Glock 43X for concealed carry. Any gun without a manual safety scares me. I'm an 1911 person but all the ones I have are too large for conceal carry. I know I need a holster to prevent snagging and accidental discharge....why are stryker pistols all the rage now? I dont understand why no manual safetys hardly anymore.
Well, to be realistic, when the double action revolver was the "standard" carry firearm, there were no safeties either.

So, what's the big deal?

(Besides, with the DA/SA semi-auto pistol, the intent was to carry them loaded with the safety off, so again, what's the big deal?)
 
Well, to be realistic, when the double action revolver was the "standard" carry firearm, there were no safeties either.

So, what's the big deal?

(Besides, with the DA/SA semi-auto pistol, the intent was to carry them loaded with the safety off, so again, what's the big deal?)
Trigger pull numbers.
 
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