stupid question of the week: converting series 80 1911 to series 70

[EddieNFL]

Interesting. I much prefer to own and carry 1911s without the lawyer parts...and I've been at this 1911 thing since 1965.

Ditto (since '74).

I get around not having them by teaching myself to not drop my piece. Having a mechanically sound firearm also helps.

Don't care for trigger locks, either.

 

[FlyinBryan]

is 1kperday's link working for you guys?

 

[r6j6b]

Yes and No

"We are currently conducting maintenance on www.brownells.com.

We will be back up shortly. Thank you for your patience."

it will soon enough

 

[1911Tuner]

Ditto (since '74).

I get around not having them by teaching myself to not drop my piece. Having a mechanically sound firearm also helps.

I wonder how we ever managed to get along for almost 75 years before Series 80...shock buffs...8-round magazines...and FLGRs.

 

[EddieNFL]

I wonder how we ever managed to get along for almost 75 years before Series 80...shock buffs...8-round magazines...and FLGRs.

We were to stupid to know. How would we survive without paper towels?

 

[larryh1108]

I kinda like these computer gizmos. Life before computers was filled with reading old National Geographic magazines. However, autos have evolved with air bags, ABS and roll cages, all in the name of safety.

I don't own nor will I buy a Series 80 but perhaps they are for the casual gun owner who only knows how to insert the magazine and pull the trigger. The modern safety features are (probably) more beneficial for those who do not patrol these boards. There's nothing wrong with additional safety features but they aren't for everybody.

 

[Racinbob]

Although I do have my opinions on this (original) issue, I'm not going to say anything but that you all need to read, reread, and heed what 1911tuner is saying.

 

[AZ_Rebel]

The series 80 firing pin block is the formost and most important safety feature ever made.

Do you really believe that?

Inserted mag, dropped slide with slide release & BANG.

Was your finger on the trigger? If not, why did the safety notch on the hammer not stop it? And with your finger on the trigger the firing pin block would also have been disengaged. Sounds more like an ND then a mechanical failure.

A series 80 would not do this even if dropped with thumb safety off.

How do propose dropping the slide with the thumb safety on?

Having owned and carried 1911 type pistols since 1958 my preference is a 4 lb trigger with some slack, no creep and no backlash. A 2 lb trigger, while do-able, is not long lasting and not desireable on a carry gun.

 

[Buck Snort]

mgmorden wrote: "A shooting is either justified, or it's not. No amount of other factors such as gun used, ammo used, or anything else is going to change the validity of your justification."

Ah yes, the leisure of living in a perfect world!

 

[Frank Ettin]

Just DON'T use it as an SD gun. You'll have a hard time explaining to a jury just why you took a perfectly good safety device out of your gun. It might not even be germaine to the case but it'll be brought up and it can't help you one little bit.

...Is there a specific legal precidence or cases this has proven as gospel truth?...

...In cases of clear self defense, it's HIGHLY unlikely that the case would even make it to trial for a jury to be wondering about it in the first place....

This isn't what this thread is about, BUT --

[1] As a lawyer, I will not use a gun for self defense that has had a safety device disabled.

[2] If anyone really wants to delve into the issue, it has been discussed extensively. See --

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=466935

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=480258

 

[ROBBY.1911]

let me see...

a guy breaqks into your house swinging a machete at your head. youroll off the couch and grab the series 80 to defend yourself. right as you defacate and faint, you double tap him. when you come to, the crazy guy is down for good but all by himself in the on the kitchen floor. you swing your head around and see 5 CSI techs with micrometers and Jerry Kunhausen manuals measuring every part of yor series 80 with two EMTs holding the gurney. you blink twice, and clear your throat as you are noticed by the law enforcement conclave gathered in your living room. as one of the cops turns to approach you, he says this,"you have the right to remain silent...."

 

[Frank Ettin]

...a guy breaqks into your house swinging a machete at your head. youroll off the couch and grab the series 80 to defend yourself. right as you defacate and faint, you double tap him. when you come to, the crazy guy is down for good but all by himself in the on the kitchen floor. you swing your head around and see 5 CSI techs with micrometers and Jerry Kunhausen manuals measuring every part of yor series 80 with two EMTs holding the gurney. you blink twice, and clear your throat as you are noticed by the law enforcement conclave gathered in your living room. as one of the cops turns to approach you, he says this,"you have the right to remain silent...."...

You have a fine, active imagination, but your little detour into fantasy fiction is completely pointless.

 

[QuikintheNick]

Best thread yet - on this subject

Bought the shim/spacer - found a smith & not sure he could do the job any better then this man... It only cost me $15 - Not going to bother...Interested in maybe a little trigger smoothing though. No interest in a hair trigger...I've been carrying 40years, my fingers are strong; been squeezing so long. A little bit interested in options available - will appreciate all sound advice; without costly expense. On my 1911 Colt Officer 45 Series 80 stainless. Have a Wolff Perf. Pak of springs coming & do utilize Wilson Combat magazines. Thanks - eyes & ears are the way into my open mind...

 

[Frank Ettin]

Ancient thread and the issues have been covered here and in the threads linked to in post 35.