Summary of Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Control Law

[mljdeckard]

It has little chance of passing. No one is saying we shouldn't take it seriously.

My representatives are rock solid. Work on yours.

 

[wacki]

It is a negotiating stance. You demand the most over the top, outlandish position which shocks your adversary, therefore anything less seems like a compromise from them.

The counter should be repeal of the GCA of 1968, and the repeal of the ban on new manufacturer and importation of fully automatic rifles. In addition we want CCW reciprocity nationally. Ultimately we'll probably meet in the middle which is the current status quo.

I like this idea.

 

[Dr_B]

It has little chance of passing.

You and I will have to disagree on this. I think it has a much larger chance of passing than people are choosing to believe. The Democrats and the media are playing hard on it this time. There are too many sheep out there, and the republicans are not as strong right now as people think.

I've contacted all of my reps for Idaho, and others in certain states.

 

[22-rimfire]

Thanks Justin for posting this. I had heard the one military characteristic versus two being in this bill. Serious stuff for shooters. Very serious.

If this thing passes, there will be a lot of guns that are not "registered".

 

[Quick Shot xMLx]

People need to take this threat seriously. I could see this getting attached to a fiscal cliff deal which is favorable for the Republicans and enough traitors will vote for it.

 

[Iramo94]

Wow. This is, uh, big. Wow.

Was it this fast in England and Australia? Did they have one bad day and dump all of the legislation at once?

Hopefully we can kill this while it's still just a proposal, so someone doesn't decide that it's time to water the tree. There will be just an almighty amount of resistance if this happens.

 

[wacki]

It has little chance of passing. No one is saying we shouldn't take it seriously.

If it has no chance of passing why is NPR doing hail marry and railing on guns daily?

Even they say "things feel different now" and "we need to keep the drum beating"

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[mljdeckard]

I never said 'no', you did. What do you think NPR usually says about guns? NPR is anti-gun and suddenly this is a crisis?

AGAIN, this is nothing new folks. They might stir up some of the general public to harumph. But we certainly aren't helping running around looking for pieces of fallen sky. I would love to play poker with some of you guys.

 

[Tim the student]

This is not good. We need to up our activism on this one.

If we can't get it stopped, I pray my wife will pop out our kid prior to this becoming law, so I can gift our newborn a couple black rifles.

 

[gunNoob]

My guns will get grandfathered and I will conveniently forget to register them because I never had any guns

 

[Checkman]

Get busy guys. Those of you who are panicking need to channel all that energy to more positive actions like contacting reps, joining the NRA, getting others to contact their reps and join the NRA. I guess go debate some anti's on the various social media sites. you might convince some people who are unsure that Feinstein is a nut.

Yes it's scary and yes it's imposing. Well okay that doesn't mean it's indestructible. Try to remember that no matter what the anti's are saying (and of course they're going to make themselves sound like they are twelve feet tall and everyone is behind them) this isn't 1994. We are better organized and we have better communications than there were in 1994. THR is an outstanding example of that.

In many ways this reminds me of the summer of 99 after Colombine. Only then they had the AWB in effect so they were going after little things. Everyone kept saying that we didn't have the moral imperative and that we had reached a "moral tipping point". The news media kept talking about how the NRA was crippled and blah blah blah. It was a really rough time for gunowners, but we got through it. However it took a lot of work. I became very active that year. I didn't worry about the sky falling.

 

[dark.zero.x]

I cant even.

No more concessions no more compromise. Since 1934 My rights have been given up without my consent.

As a very brave man once said:
Give me liberty, or give me death.

 

[RX-178]

Let me get this straight.

This woman reintroduces the old AWB year after year after year... after YEAR. It never gains any traction.

The ONE TIME she has a chance at getting support for this bill, the one single solitary time in almost 10 years...

She dives off the deep end and comes up with something so unbelievably radical and insane, even the Joe Manchins in the Senate will laugh it out of the room.

I swear to god she's gotten too used to the bill failing to want it to succeed.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

Now can we finally stop repeating that "they learned their lesson in 94" nonsense that is always brought up?

 

[gunnutery]

That sucks to say the least.

I would like to remind everyone to checkout the FBI crime stats under murder by weapon. Let you're reps know that RIFLES (doesn't specify auto,semi,bolt etc) were only used in 323 murders out of 12,644 in 2011 and the trend is on the decline over the last 5 years. Obviously there are variables and the stats aren't the end all be all, but we're using GOVERNMENT stats against them!

 

[RX-178]

Oh, when you guys write your senators and congress-critters about this, be sure to copy and paste what's on Feinstein's website. Just READING this will probably get a few of them, even a few anti-gun leaning moderates to steer clear of this career-killing insanity.

I'm going to repeat my opinion that I think Feinstein has just lost the support of Joe Manchin, Kay Bailey Hutchison, and all the other A-ranked congresspeople that turncoated on the high-cap issue.

 

[leadaddict]

I agree that she's asking for less than she wants, but more than even she knows she can get. Then it will make her seem reasonable when she "compromises" away some of this lunacy.

Demand the first-born son and then you'll seem like a nice guy when all you take is the family dog.

 

[napjerk]

This is bad news.

On an unrelated note (I don't know where else to put this), I went out on a boating trip yesterday and for some stupid reason I took all my guns along with me. As luck would have it, the boat capsized and I lost ALL my guns overboard in international waters. Dammit.

 

[mcdonl]

The great thing about extremist is they are always looked at with one raised eyebrow. The over the top style proves deadly to both sides and typicaly the status quo wins. In my opinion.

 

[Alaska444]

You and I will have to disagree on this. I think it has a much larger chance of passing than people are choosing to believe. The Democrats and the media are playing hard on it this time. There are too many sheep out there, and the republicans are not as strong right now as people think.

I've contacted all of my reps for Idaho, and others in certain states.

Exactly. These folks in D.C. are just toying with us. They already know in advance what they are going to do. We will be lucky to escape without a SA ban in rifle and handgun. Forget about hicap magazines, that is toast even before the argument begins. Forget about NFA registration of all black rifles, they are looking at "real and substantive" changes. I never thought Obama could be elected not just once but twice in this country.

If you look at some of the early reports, folks with an NRA A rating are beginning to line up. They have always wanted to remove the guns from Americans, as far as SA and those black rifles, if they are not banned, I will be quite surprised myself. Don't underestimate where we stand. That is, completely at the mercy of the folks that "we sent" to D.C. It didn't matter that the majority of folks in the US didn't want Obamacare, but guess what is the "law of the land" today. We live in a different era, the Obama era. Nothing is beyond belief any longer.

 

[Buck Kramer]

Those surveyed were asked what happened to their firearm collection:

100% were lost in a boating accident
End of list lol

 

[Alaska444]

Wow. This is, uh, big. Wow.

Was it this fast in England and Australia? Did they have one bad day and dump all of the legislation at once?

Hopefully we can kill this while it's still just a proposal, so someone doesn't decide that it's time to water the tree. There will be just an almighty amount of resistance if this happens.

Yes in Australia, no in England, they were a slow burn over about 100 years of progressive gun control. By the time it hit them, they had already surrendered most of their rights long ago.

 

[Master Blaster]

The state of Delaware does not allow NFA registered items. So for Delaware this would be a complete ban on all semiautomatic weapons. I am sure my three Democratic toadies in congress would vote for this. The Hunters in my state are Morons, and I am sure would support the ban.

 

[Alaska444]

The state of Delaware does not allow NFA registered items. So for Delaware this would be a complete ban on all semiautomatic weapons. I am sure my three Democratic toadies in congress would vote for this. The Hunters in my state are Morons, and I am sure would support the ban.

Unfortunately, the individual state battles have not even come on the radar screen yet. Even if nothing substantive gets done in D.C., the states will begin lining up as well. This will not look pretty when it is over, what ever over means.

 

[Sav .250]

To think that the gun owners in the US and certain gun owners in particular are not in for a rough stretch is not facing reality. Like it or not this is when ther rubber meets the road. May take time but when you can hear the drummer, the band is not far behind.