Taurus TH45 Just Released

5-SHOTS said:
Are the slide and frame beefed up in comparison to the TH9/TH40?
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It’ll surely need to be for the 10mm model.

We’re down the road some 40-yrs with the 10mm cartridge. Any gun manufacturer who thinks a 10mm pistol can be made on a .45 frame by just re-barreling it and modifying the breech-face to 10mm/.40-cal specs is only setting the gun up for failure.
 
BC17A said:
Picked up my TH45 today. Nearly identically to the 9 and 40 with the exception of the sights. The 9 and 40 use 3-dot sights with both front and rear being drift adjustable where the 45 has a blacked out rear and a non-adjustable front sight.
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Non-adjustible. Meaning like Glock sights, and not a dovetail mounted?
 
I'm on my way to the range in a couple of hours. The GX4 will be with be as per a friend's request. I had a G2C and liked it, but kept the extremely similar G26 instead because of the weird Taurus trigger. The GX4's trigger doesn't feel like that at all.
 
BC17A said:
No, all three frames and slides are nearly identical
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This surprises me. What about the length of travel of the barrel relative to the frame? Longer travel time there means lower chamber pressure at unlock. You could take side-by-side pictures of the cut below the chamber if you want to show the differences there.
 
S.Crockett said:
It’ll surely need to be for the 10mm model.

We’re down the road some 40-yrs with the 10mm cartridge. Any gun manufacturer who thinks a 10mm pistol can be made on a .45 frame by just re-barreling it and modifying the breech-face to 10mm/.40-cal specs is only setting the gun up for failure.
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They should follow the Glock procesure and design it for 10mm first, then .45 second.

Question on this tho: what is done to the typical 1911 to make one in 10mm ok to fire? Totally different slide?
 
OK from reading through this It looks like people are not familiar with this design, TH series is not a new design. Its the modern version of a long line of Taurus pistils thats always been overlooked. This design stems all the way back to the old pt915, 908, 945 etc. etc. Aluminum framed pistols of the 90s where Taurus sort of merged the Sig Sauer locking system onto a Berretta 92 style lower. Of course that changed a little when they took the design to polymer and incorporated a little of the Glock into the design. Im not sure what generation these would fall into but this is at least the third because the model before this (polymer) was almost exactly the same pistol with minor cosmetic differences. Its a well vetted design and sees use in LE contracts throughout South America.
In 9mm, 40s&W, and 45acp they have been around forever. The 10mm is a new addition to the so as far as holding up to full power 10mm long term I have no idea. The other calibers have always been durable though.

This design was never subjected to the much talked about "Taurus recall" unless something has changed in the couple years or so. Most of that hype stemmed from the Millennium design which Taurus used in a whole slew of their pistols.. Millenniums, 24/7 etc. etc. Mainly dealing with the fact that the original design was based around a simple DAO system that Taurus then turned into this new system found currently in the G3. Its somewhat Similar to Sig going from DAO P250 and turning them into the 320. FMK ran into this problem as well with the 9C1.

Anyways..Back to the TH series. Most people familiar with this design know this was always one of Taurus's top tier semi auto designs basically coming in second to their PT92 Beretta clones. They have always been under the radar for the most part but the design is sound and typically dont have any problems people have experienced throughout the years with the Millenium inspired pistols. They are Duty size pistols and feel more in line with something like a Star (Spanish) merged with a Ruger P Series along with a polymer frame. DA is a little heavy and gritty but the SA has always been pretty good. Its pretty rare to here of problems with any of the different generations. I remember maybe 2-3 instances of trigger reset springs failing on the 1st versions (Aluminum Beretta style lower) and a couple broken fireing pins on the polymer framed pistols. How much those pistols were abused Im not sure. Dry fire a pistol long enough and bad things tend to happen.

10mm full power... I guess we will find out. I would pay close attention to the locking surfaces on the barrel and slide and look for deformation along with the slide just below the extractor at the back of the ejection port. Hard to believe these will rip themselves apart as they are pretty stout pistols but a lot of that is going to depend on Taurus's engineers and their understanding of full power 10mm. The 40S&W versions always held up well under those pressures so thats a good sign.

There are compact versions of this design in 9mm and 40 but they lack the ambidextrous features. They are a step up from the G2/G3 Millenium design IMO unless you just have to have a striker system for whatever reason. While I am a fan of Taurus 92 Beretta style design the TH style design has always been my second favorite. They are a little of a throwback compared to more common stuff out there though.. low bore strikers with Modular chasis systems etc. etc. Newer shooter or people addicted to Glockish style systems usually find the TH Hammer Fired series kinda clunky and overcomplicated. Fans of pistols like the Ruger P series or older Sig Sauers tend to like them. Heavy slides with DA/SA trigger systems has a lot to do with that IMO.
 
@starling Thank you for that post. I honestly wouldn't be interested in the .45 acp but I might be interested in the 9c. I shot with my oldest girl last weekend and she wasn't able to rack the slide on any of my striker fired 9mm pistols. I was when she is the time comes for her to own a handgun hammer fired might be the way to go. I was thinking the Shield EZ would be an option but this may be another option.
 
Mike J said:
@starling Thank you for that post. I honestly wouldn't be interested in the .45 acp but I might be interested in the 9c. I shot with my oldest girl last weekend and she wasn't able to rack the slide on any of my striker fired 9mm pistols. I was when she is the time comes for her to own a handgun hammer fired might be the way to go. I was thinking the Shield EZ would be an option but this may be another option.
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Best to take her to the shops to handle things just to be sure. I would hate for you to buy something unseen and it not work. Shield EZ might be the best option for her. I never never notice if slides are excessively hard to rack. I have had this issue with my wife though before no matter what technique I show her. Sometimes I think she is pretending she cant rack the slide LOL.

There is not a whole lot of reviews out there on the TH series but there are some. The previous generation of these was the PT-800 series was the generation of this pistol before they took on the TH name. I dont want to talk these up like they are Korths but IMO they are solid offerings from Taurus (I still think their PT-92 series is tops) and I like them. I remember people mentioning drop safe issues with the PT800 series but could never find anything to actually back up that claim. When the recall for all their Millennium based pistols happened Taurus phased out the PT800 series and shortly after brought about the TH line which is pretty much a new cosmetic version of the 800 series. A lot of people lumped ALL the taurus pistols together in terms of recalls and went online to bash everything and anything Taurus. As far as I know about that recall the Hammer fired 800 series pistols were never on the list. The TH generation has been around since maybe 2016/2017 now so they have been out there in this generation for quite a while. People just tend to overlook the design for whatever reason.

For people who want to research the design its best to do a search for both the TH9/TH40 pistols but also the PT-800 series (809/840/845) which had offering in both full size and compact in calibers 9/40/45. Taurus has a nasty has of discontinuing pistols prematurely but this design has been around for a long time now. Im glad they chose this one to bring out the 10mm as it should keep the line going. If they botch the 10mm and that pistol gets a bad wrap Im sure people will run online to trash the whole series. My gut feeling is that unless they have beefed up a few areas on the 10mm I dont see it holding up to nuclear, full power 10mm loads but I could be wrong. Most of the 10mm ammo out there these days is not the crazy stuff so it kinda depends what Taurus was using for testing when making the change. Im not a fan of beta testing for manufacturers so I will hold off on the 10mm TH for a little while to see how things play out. I dont have any reservations about the 9/40/45 versions though as Taurus already has done this with the 800 series. 10mm is new territory for taurus and I have seen a whole lot of companies botch the 10mm for full power use. Most of them have gotten a good handle on 357sig or 40S&W these days. TH series pistols are overbuilt for 9mm obviously. My favorite of the series is probably the full size 40S&W versions.

Not much of an aftermarket for this line in terms of fine tuning pistols because they have never been super popular. If mods and customization are an issue its best to go with the G2/G3 series or another brand entirely. I never saw any reason to change things on the 800/TH series as I pretty much liked what Taurus did with them from the factory.
 
If anyone is interested I was just going through my E-mail & noticed Kygunco.com has the TH45 for $409.99.
 
Taurus bashing? 35 years ago a buddy talked me out of buying a "piece of junk" Taurus 92 so I bucked up and bought my Beretta 92 INOX instead. I have read so much Taurus bashing over the years since then I have always been afraid to buy one.
 
MikeInOr said:
Taurus bashing? 35 years ago a buddy talked me out of buying a "piece of junk" Taurus 92 so I bucked up and bought my Beretta 92 INOX instead. I have read so much Taurus bashing over the years since then I have always been afraid to buy one.
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I see Gunbroker selling Taurus G2 single stack 9mm pistols for $200. It maybe worth giving one a try.
@Michael Tinker Pearce has a couple of good videos on his YouTube Channel
Tinker Talks Guns.
I think that they are worth checking out.
 
MikeInOr said:
Taurus bashing? 35 years ago a buddy talked me out of buying a "piece of junk" Taurus 92 so I bucked up and bought my Beretta 92 INOX instead. I have read so much Taurus bashing over the years since then I have always been afraid to buy one.
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I bought a PT 92 in 1986. I still have it and it’s still shooting. I got the. 99 a year later and that one’s still shooting also.
 
Mauser lover said:
This surprises me. What about the length of travel of the barrel relative to the frame? Longer travel time there means lower chamber pressure at unlock. You could take side-by-side pictures of the cut below the chamber if you want to show the differences there.
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Other than the chambers and hood widths there is zero difference between any of the barrels. All outer dimensions are identical. As a matter of fit/function, the 40 and 9 mil barrels will install into the 45 slide and fit on all three frames. Only difference between frames, other than the slight width difference of the grips, are the ejectors. 9/40 use the same ejector where the 45 is a different.

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BC17A said:
Other than the chambers and hood widths there is zero difference between any of the barrels. All outer dimensions are identical. As a matter of fit/function, the 40 and 9 mil barrels will install into the 45 slide and fit on all three frames. Only difference between frames, other than the slight width difference of the grips, are the ejectors. 9/40 use the same ejector where the 45 is a different.
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Interesting. So one could conceivable do a "convertible".
 
Kudos for Taurus. #1 for entering into 10mm. #2 For not making it hideous. Taurus's first venture into 10mm from what I recall so people should probably keep their expectations realistic. I highly doubt this is going to be the next Glock 20.

Also Kudos to @BC17A for all the great technical pictures and info in this thread.

Curious what the slide weight is on that 10mm TH
 
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