Tell me your thoughts on a couple lowers

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I have yet to build an AR, so I'm looking for opinions on a couple lowers I'm looking at getting. They are the Aero precision m5 and the Aero precision m4e1. The only reason I'm looking at these 2 particular lowers is I have been offered a decent deal for them.
The m4e1 will probably be my first build, with the m5 being a future build. Let's be honest, they'll both be future builds as I buy parts here and there.
Does the quality justify the price? What differentiates these from say an Anderson (finish, tolerance, etc...)?
 
Does the quality justify the price?
Without knowing that price its impossible to say.
Aero makes a great lower, but would I pay $200? Nope.
M4E1 should be around $90, M5 around $109shipped


What differentiates these from say an Anderson (finish, tolerance, etc...)?
Anderson makes a perfectly acceptable AR lower, but Aero is a better fit and much better finish IMO.
 
Taking a loot at the website, it appears the M5 is for a .308-sized rifle. Won't be for another AR15, then.

Either way, can't say for these specific ones, but my second AR is built on an Aero X15. Seems to be a little nicer than my Anderson, but not in any direct, functional way. Machine marks are prettier.
The M4E1 seems to have a more geometric 'futuristic' look to it which work for a build if that's what you want. And threaded detent catches and pins are a nice feature if that's what you want. I like that my X15 uses the roll pin for the bolt catch, because that's standard and pennies versus tracking down a special part if it somehow fails, but I hardly think that's on the top 100 things likely to go wrong at the range.
The upper tension screw is a good thought, but there's an incredibly fine line between "actually works" and "extremely hard to disassemble/reassemble" because by the time you apply pressure on the upper to remove some wiggle, it's pushing on the takedown pins.
Integrated finger guard is up to preference. Looks fine.

So, yeah. If you get a good deal, go for it. Markings on mine are nice. Milled instead of some others' cast-in or stamped. Finish is better than some others but like others have said, it just needs all the holes to be right. Wouldn't feel bad about another Aero on my part, but I'd be happy with another Anderson, too. Wouldn't pay much extra for it.
 
After seeing some different brands together in a case down south, I always choose Aero.
They have a nicer finish to them. That’s all. And I like the big “A” roll mark.
Better color, smoother finish, safer packaging for no scratches.
All the rest better be the same, dimensionally, or it wouldn’t work properly.

VSeven has a few receiver sets. Their 2055 LR Enlightened is a mere $850, and made from a lithium aluminum amalgam to lighten it by four ounces.
Yes, I think Aero is a good deal!:D
 
Does the quality justify the price? What differentiates these from say an Anderson (finish, tolerance, etc...)?
The increase in price between cheap and expensive receivers is the difference in cost of quality inspections.

The cost to run a 5-axis machining center is the same at Anderson and at LMT or BCM, and all of them are programmed off the same dimensions, so theoretically all of them are going to be exactly the same.

Theoretically.

In reality, does the operator put the work in the fixture exactly the same each time? Is the tooling replaced before tooling wear changes the dimensions outside tolerances? Does the tool pick-up a piece of swarf and smear it around the cut?

And most important - Do they inspect the finished product rigorously enough to weed out the bad ones?

So, what do you get when you buy "quality"? You get lower chances of a bad piece. If you are willing to gamble, or don't mind playing the return game, cheap works.
 
Aero makes a great lower, but would I pay $200? Nope.
M4E1 should be around $90, M5 around $109shipped
No way would I pay $200 either. I think the cheapest I found online was around $160 for the M5, and I wish it was $109 shipped!
The M4e1 is right around there.

Thanks for the reply
 
Aero makes nice lowers. My LGS carries the standard X15-marked lowers for $109. Direct from Aero would likely be cheaper, even after a transfer fee.

Aero has sales fairly often and their blems are very nice. At this point I would be tempted to see what Black Friday deals they might have.
 
I have a bunch of both models. As was mentioned above, M5 is for large format; M4 for small format. I prefer the enhanced versions by a long shot. As was mentioned above, they often go on sale. I shop mostly at Primary Arms for them since I'm local and can pick them up without a transfer fee. The matching handguards are pretty nice as well. I don't think you can go wrong choosing them. I usually use their parts kits as well. They have great customer support, too.
 
I've had issues with a few PSA lowers.
Well I should qualify mine as being owning only one so that's all I have to go off of. It was the first one I bought with my first BCA AR47 upper, the only reason I never bought another was because of the big roaring bear logo on the side. I don't like that but I got a great price on it. I also only have one Anderson and one Aero, all the rest are PSAs ($60 "blemished").
 
When I first considered assembling an AR, AIM was selling Anderson's for under $40. I bought a few, there was a small problem of the hole for the grip screw being a little short. I shimmed the screw with two washers and the problem was solved.

The rest of the gun was an inexpensive PSA kit. I put it all together with common household tools and it worked perfectly first time.

I'm sure Anderson has solved that hole problem. I sold off the AR and the other lowers, just not an AR guy, but if I was going to do another one, I'd have no problem buying another Anderson. AIM is currently selling them for under $45. https://aimsurplus.com/products/anderson-manufacturing-am15-multi-cal-lower-receiver
 
Well I should qualify mine as being owning only one so that's all I have to go off of.

To be fair, I've had a lot of PSAs. I think maybe 20-30% have had problems with the rear takedown pin. Also, these were usually assembled by PSA, not stripped lowers. Sometimes the problem appears to have been out-of-spec holes, sometimes it's probably poor assembly.

John
 
To be fair, I've had a lot of PSAs. I think maybe 20-30% have had problems with the rear takedown pin. Also, these were usually assembled by PSA, not stripped lowers. Sometimes the problem appears to have been out-of-spec holes, sometimes it's probably poor assembly.

John
Mine were all stripped lowers and I used the cheapest I could find mil-spec fire control groups, I wasn't out to build competition rifles.
 
One other thing, if you're getting a stripped receiver and using a mil-spec fire control group instead of a drop in you'll need a spring and detent "oops" kit.
 
Quite a few years ago when Anderson lowers were very very cheap I bought a few for builds. I had several issues with the specs on their lowers without the integrated trigger guards. I contacted Anderson regarding the problems and they basically blew me off.
I have not had any problems with the Anderson lowers with the integrated trigger guards and find them far superior to the ones without the integrated trigger guards, especially the fit and finish.

Since then I've tried a number of different brands of lowers and find Stag Arms to be pretty good (all mine are pre-move), but the Aero enhanced lowers are my go-to. The enhanced lowers have a number of upgrades that make the build easier and higher quality in my opinion. Great quality and excellent customer service unlike Anderson.

Also, don't cheap out on the parts kits. Or the buffer tube kits. I highly recommend using enhanced buffer tubes as they fix the rotation problem and don't require staking the castle nut. I highly recommend tuned and/or flat wire buffer springs. If you have the $$ you might even want to look at a silent capture buffer spring, especially if you plan to suppress the firearm. And invest in a good single stage drop in or 2-stage trigger. At the very least get an upgraded mil-spec trigger like ALG or similar. If you plan to mount a scope, an extended charging handle is your friend. I like the BCM gunfighter. Your mileage may vary.

I don't have much experience with the more expensive boutique, usually billet, receiver sets. I have used a few billet lowers and find them less appealing overall, though if you want a lower in the shape of a skull or something then go for it.

Basically, don't cheap out on your parts. It doesn't cost that much more to assemble a far superior firearm.
 
Take it for what it’s worth, I’ve read that Anderson is the Honda Civic of AR lowers. Aero would be my preference if the price is comparable.
 
My advise is don't go cheap and stick to what's compatible with the platform. Lots of guys talk about the cheap rifle they put together and say they run fine, but their idea of running fine is that the rifle survived a few trips to the range a year.

I run over 30k rounds a year practicing and I am what I would consider casual about being proficient with my firearms.

I've found that you usually get what you pay for but the law of diminishing returns still applies. I stay away from lower tier stuff, like Anderson. When it comes to stuff in the upper tiers that are reasonably priced, I like Aero, BCM, Spike's, etc. I've found that paying a little more buys you more quality control and usually a better finish.

As for the Aero you're talking about, I think they look cool and they work just fine. The downside is the threaded pin for the bolt catch. What if you lose it? What if you lose it at a really bad time? The other thing I don't like about it is that the contour makes using a BAD lever a questionable proposition. Lastly, I don't like integrated trigger guards. Admittedly, bending or breaking one isn't common, but it does happen and is irreplaceable if it is integrated.

Since you are asking this question, I have to assume that this will be your goto AR. Meaning, if you ever NEED it, you're going to need it to work and keep working. If this is the case, I'd suggest going with a plain Jane lower from a reputable manufacturer for parts compatibility.

In the end, what you should end up with is a rifle that you can disassemble in the field with nothing more than the tip of a bullet and if need be, further disassembly/assembly can be done using a rock as a hammer and a nail as a punch. I'd also suggest a spare complete bolt assembly.

If this is just going to be a toy, then I've used a few of the Aeros you're talking about. They look cool and work well.

Don't skimp on the small parts though. I get mine from places like FCD and Bravo Company.
 
Take it for what it’s worth, I’ve read that Anderson is the Honda Civic of AR lowers. Aero would be my preference if the price is comparable.
I have used several of this model Anderson lower in the past and would not ever buy another. They have been too often out of spec and with numerous fitment and finish problems. In my opinion it is just above the level of junk.
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This model with the integrated trigger guard is a much higher quality option, much better fit and finish, and maybe is equivalent to the level of a Honda Civic.

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Take it as just one person's experience from at least a couple dozen builds with Anderson lowers versus a couple hundred with other lowers. My go to unless someone wants a specific brand or billet design is Aero as well, primarily the enhanced versions. Your mileage and expectations may vary.
 
I have yet to build an AR, so I'm looking for opinions on a couple lowers I'm looking at getting. They are the Aero precision m5 and the Aero precision m4e1. The only reason I'm looking at these 2 particular lowers is I have been offered a decent deal for them.
The m4e1 will probably be my first build, with the m5 being a future build. Let's be honest, they'll both be future builds as I buy parts here and there.
Does the quality justify the price? What differentiates these from say an Anderson (finish, tolerance, etc...)?
Here's the main thing to think about. We all have our opinions and our experiences, some will tell you only to buy top end, some will tell you the middle grade products are great and some will tell you that the budget ones aren't bad. Again all this is based on each person's preferences and experiences. Ultimately it comes down to you, what you want and what you're willing to pay.
If you want to go with the middle of the road or higher end product you'll most likely have something that works right out of the box. If you go with the budget options then you have a greater chance of something possibly being out of spec or is blemished. Chose what you want but like many here have already stated you really can't go wrong with an Aero lower.
 
The M4E is a good lower. They are still high quality 7075 Forgings made by one of America’s Foundries. Aero just machines the lines & angles with CNC, to imitate the looks of a Billet. What I do like is the closed trigger guard. It’s better looking & better performing being one piece. Before I started machining my own 80% 7075-T6 Billets, I used the Spikes Tactical “Crusader” Lowers, which were the first to start offering Forged Lowers with the enclosed trigger guard. Anderson used the same ones from the same Foundry, then Aero started offering these. For $90 it’s not a bad deal. I’d buy them. While my 80% Billets from AMT used to cost about $75, prices have gone up. The 80% Billet Lowers I’ll be using in the future cost about $120 from now on. Worth it to me, as I prefer machining my own rifles, not buying them with another name all over them.
 
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