Tennessean publishes CCW holders info?

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If not mistaken, that was done about a year ago to the barrage of hundreds of irate CCW holders.

I called the paper about 2 hours in and spoke to a low level go between that was given the job of answering to this mess. She sounded like a beaten woman by the time I got to her so I took the high road and gave her a bit of sympathy and carefully explained how doing the deed could be detrimental to the people listed. Bad guys knowing what houses have guns and all that stuff.

I asked to speak to the editor and she told me that she would personally ask that the editor get back to me.

She (the editor) actually did call but I was out shooting and missed it but the list was pulled by early afternoon.
 
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http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=56315

Behind-the-scenes maneuvering kills move to close gun records

Date created: 4/3/2008 8:22:58 AM
Last updated: 4/3/2008 8:24:12 AM



By THEO EMERY
Staff Writer - THE TENNESSEANAdvertisement



A proposal to make secret the names and addresses of Tennesseans who have handgun carry permits died in a whirlwind of political intrigue Wednesday, aided by state House Speaker Jimmy Naifeh.

First, freshman House member Henry Fincher engineered a vote on the bill while two of its opponents - two of his more senior colleagues - were out of the room.

In turn, Naifeh reversed the vote with the help of the House's newest member, Karen Camper, who had been sworn in only about an hour earlier.

The end result: The names and addresses of permit holders will remain public for now.

"When the majority party finds it doesn't have the votes it needs to accomplish what it wants to accomplish - in this case, trampling on the Second Amendment rights of Tennesseans - it massages the rules and finds a way to get it accomplished," House Republican Leader Jason Mumpower said.

The House Criminal Practice Subcommittee had a calendar of nearly 90 bills to consider Wednesday.

The group first approved the bill in question - voting to close the gun permit records - when two members of the committee who opposed the idea, Reps. Rob Briley and Janis Sontany, were out of the room.

When the two Nashville Democrats were gone, Fincher, a Cookeville Democrat, called the bill up for a vote, and it was quickly approved without debate.

A short time later, Naifeh arrived at the subcommittee meeting from the swearing-in ceremony for Camper, a Democrat recently appointed to fill a vacant House seat from Shelby County.

Naifeh added Camper to the subcommittee. The two then joined with the bill's opponents to reverse the earlier vote and banished the legislation until 2012.

The speaker afterward said he had not talked with Camper about the vote beforehand, and that they went to the committee hearing only because she had said she was interested in being on the House Judiciary Committee.

"That's just how it happened," he said.

Mumpower said the voting was not "the proper way that things should have been run."

Naifeh said that he would prefer not to have to cast committee votes as speaker, "but when it's a matter of importance, I do."

Publication spurred bill

The legislation was proposed after The Tennessean posted on its Web site a database listing the names and counties of residence of every handgun permit holder in the state. The Senate version of the bill is scheduled for a floor vote today.

This was not the first time that Naifeh had cast votes to kill gun legislation.

Two weeks ago, he dropped in on the same subcommittee to vote against several other gun-related bills. House rules allow him to make such votes as speaker.

And a year ago, Naifeh also brought a newly sworn-in House member to the House Agricultural Committee, where she cast a key vote that helped pass a cigarette tax increase.

Fincher defended his decision to call up the bill when Sontany and Briley were out of the room, saying, "We voted with the members that were in the room, as we have on every bill that we had a quorum with today.

"I'm a strong supporter of gun owner rights, and their confidentiality, and I believe that that is an important value to be upheld by the legislature," he said.

Fincher said he didn't take the reversal of the vote as a reprimand.

"I didn't take it that way. I think they had strong feelings on the bill, as did I. They had the votes."

Frank Gibson, director of the Tennessee Coalition for Open Government, said that the gun permit records should be open to scrutiny and that the bill was initially approved in the subcommittee without any discussion or debate.

"There has to be some way for the public and the press to know whether the program is being properly administered and to ensure that permits are not given to people who by law are not supposed to be able to carry them," he said.

The chairman of the full judiciary committee, Rep. Kent Coleman, a Murfreesboro Democrat, said he was taken by surprise when Fincher called the bill up for a vote.

He said he didn't like the idea of closing the gun permit records, but he initially voted in favor of the bill in a parliamentary tactic, so that he could later make a motion to have that vote reconsidered.




The Tennessean
 
Did I mention I can't stand Naifeh..

It's time for this guy to pack up and go

We'll never got restaurant carry either as long as he's up there
 
There is nothing wrong with the information being public as long as it is not posted. We had a big foo-bar on this subject about ten years ago. After virtually every CCW holder raised holy-ned, it got changed to "public information, obtainable on individuals from the Sheriff's office".

If an individual wants to know (scenario here) if his neighbor has a CCW, he is free to go to the Sheriff's office and request that information. NO master list is published. :D

That maintains the information as "public" but also tracks who asks for what. Seems to work quite well.
 
make sure to cancel your subscription to any anti- newspaper and boycott their advertisers.
 
The law where no carry is allowed in places where alcohol is served did alot of good when Shelby County Sheriff's deputy Sgt. Chris M. Jones shot those two at the Wind Jammer last month. Who know's, if those two victims had been "allowed" to carry there it might not have ended so tragically.

Tennessee House Speaker Jimmy Naifeh, a Covington Democrat, killed the bill that would've "allowed" us our right to carry in places that serve alchohol. He was also the determining factor in allowing the private information of all us CCW'ers accessable to the public.

This is an e-mail I just sent to TN House Speaker Jimmy Naifeh on his killing of the two bills that would've allowed carry where alcohol is served and the other that kept CCW permit holder addresses private:

Mr. TN House Speaker Naifeh,

I would just like to extend my appreciation to you for killing the two bills that would've allowed CCW permit holders to carry in businesses that serve alcohol and to to keep the private information of CCW permit holders public.

The law that keeps people from carrying firearms where alcohol is served did nothing to stop Shelby County Sheriff's Deputy Sgt. Chris M. Jones from shooting the two law-abiding, un-armed patrons at the Wind Jammer this past March, for no apparent justifiable reason. Had the two victims been "allowed" to carry, as they should have, Mr. Munsey, might still be with us today. Thank you for your "protection", but no thanks.

I would also like to thank you for permitting the vast number of thugs in the Memphis area to realize the addresses of CCW holders. I can't wait to come home to find them rooting through my house looking for them. Thanks again and we'll see you at election time.

Amprecon

Memphis, TN
 
Nothing wrong with this information being public? How about the Federal Privacy Act? I am a private citizen and any information about me that the government has is to be protected from exposure to the public by law.
 
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