Steel Hayes
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Expat_Alaska, A lot of the Pietta parts will fit the older ASM revolvers.
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expat_alaska
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Well, that's for the next guy to figure out. I hope both of them are paying attention because I am done with the Pockets. Thanks for the info, sir.
I was born (Mt. Clemens) and raised in Michigan but have not been back since 1969. Most all of my relatives are still there, north of Detroit due to the white flight. Lived in Alaska most of my adult life, but I am getting way off topic.
Sorry.
Jim
I was born (Mt. Clemens) and raised in Michigan but have not been back since 1969. Most all of my relatives are still there, north of Detroit due to the white flight. Lived in Alaska most of my adult life, but I am getting way off topic.
Sorry.
Jim
Here we have a couple of .44 caliber Sheriff models. They are substantially bigger than the Pocket Police revolver and I'm in agreement with you that the Sherrif models are not "pocket" revolvers.
Berkley
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Uberti Wells Fargo, with all the accessories to make it ready to slip into your pocket.
dickydalton
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I hope it doesn't hit too bad. I also hope it's still rain when it gets here because we need some melting!
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maint1517
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Same here. I have a 1851 sheriffs and a 1858 sheriffs. Although they have the shorter barrel, they just don't fit in the pocket revolver category imho.
expat_alaska
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expat_alaska
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Maint1517 is the new owner. He just has not received it yet. Maybe by the end of next week.
I expect he will want to be on the Pocket Pistol Club list, ClemBert.
Jim
I expect he will want to be on the Pocket Pistol Club list, ClemBert.
Jim
maint1517
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Definitely! And thanks Jim!
As soon as I receive it I will post a picture for membership.
As soon as I receive it I will post a picture for membership.
maint1517
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Thanks Striker.
kBob
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OK its brass but no question of it being pocket sized in there with its larger cousin. Currently it is on sick call. I had just cleaned it and was doing a function check when the hand spring broke. It is in a jewelry box in pieces with the small bits in a pill bottle in the box. Hate to pay postage that is as much as the part so I am waiting to put together a larger order. Considered using a bobby pin with the straight bit cut to size, but there is not near as much room to work in as NMA or Colt 51/60. Since it broke right at the hand a bud suggested hammering the bit that remains into the slot for the spring and "just see if it's long enough." My guess is that if a spring 1/16 of an inch shorter would have worked they would not have made the original that length.
-kBob
kBob
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Just for giggles.
That thing weighs half a ton and has a trigger pull that is absolutely safe with that weight, a few times over. It is a Classic Arms gun and NOT self indexing. Accuracy, with no sights, smooth bores, over patched undersized Buck shot for bullets, and that horrible trigger is Minute Of Planet.
-kBob
That thing weighs half a ton and has a trigger pull that is absolutely safe with that weight, a few times over. It is a Classic Arms gun and NOT self indexing. Accuracy, with no sights, smooth bores, over patched undersized Buck shot for bullets, and that horrible trigger is Minute Of Planet.
-kBob
kBob
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I actually like this one. For those that have been around a while the upper is Das Klunker, a Brass .44 I got as junk and got working, originally for my Dad. I call the little square back trigger guard brass 1949 "Litter Bit" and it is The Boy's favorite BP.
-kBob
-kBob
Brad_Bradsher
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Thanks, Clembert! And KBob, that pepperbox might be better than a single shot Ace...maybe...ok, you're right, go for the Bowie knife!
maint1517
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Ok,heres mine for membership. Replica arms 1848 pocket square back tg. I'll be pulling the spring to retemper this weekend. Thanks Jim!
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expat_alaska
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Maint, you are very welcome. Just get it working and show us some smoke! No chain fires, please!
It is not much fun to load the chambers on the gun with the short frame, short forcing cone, and the small V-notch load aperture, but it is pretty much correct for an repro 1848 Pocket. That's why the 1849 Pocket had the longer frame, the longer forcing cone, and the larger beveled load aperture.
Jim
It is not much fun to load the chambers on the gun with the short frame, short forcing cone, and the small V-notch load aperture, but it is pretty much correct for an repro 1848 Pocket. That's why the 1849 Pocket had the longer frame, the longer forcing cone, and the larger beveled load aperture.
Jim
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maint1517
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Ok. I saw this on ebay this morning
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162986341071
I believe it is for a pocket Remington. Just thought I'd share it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162986341071
I believe it is for a pocket Remington. Just thought I'd share it.
expat_alaska
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That's a very fair price for a Pietta 1858 Remington New Model Navy .36 cylinder. VTI sells a new Pietta 1851 Navy .36 smooth cylinder (for all of you G&G, L&R, and S&G, et al, replica parts swappers like me) for just shy of a C-note! I bought a nice used one for $25 from a fellow forum member for my Rigdon & Ansley pistol project with the correct no-rear-cylinder-safety-pins about a year ago but I am straying off topic, as usual.
(Just a bit of a rant: I wish the proper description of the repro Remmy NMA/NMN was 1863 (or a year earlier) when production basically was marketed, because the only thing 1858 has to do with the original pistols is the 1858 Beals patent date on the barrel, and has been reproduced on the repros. It's an Italian thing I guess.)
This cylinder is a 6-shot .36, whereas the Pietta Pocket 1863 is a 5-shot .31, made in brass, steel, or nickel-plated (brass) frames.
http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/blackpowder-revolvers/1863-pocket-remington-collection.html
Pietta makes (or made) a Rem 1858 NMN .36 6-1/2" barrel (and maybe no other length), but unless you have one with a bad cylinder, I can't foresee why one would need another cylinder, unless one is building a parts gun from other guns/parts that one may have on hand or from GB or Ebay. That may prove to be spendy.
http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/hand...tion/pietta-1858-navy-remington-6-1-2-36.html
Maint, thanks for the heads-up for all of the Remmy folks!
Jim
Steel Hayes
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A couple more pockets(can you see a pattern?)
expat_alaska
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The pepperbox is to die for. Overhammer, nice wood and very good fit.
Do you shoot it?
I don't see a pattern. The top break is a cartridge gun and the pepperbox is a BP C&B pistol. I like both but no comparison.
Do you shoot it?
I don't see a pattern. The top break is a cartridge gun and the pepperbox is a BP C&B pistol. I like both but no comparison.
Steel Hayes
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I enjoy pockets more than the full size revolvers.
The pepper box shoots ok, still working on the hammer spring(to light).
kBob
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If you mean the Classic Arms only the once. The pull really is a beast. I got it because I just had to have a pepper box. I had wanted one of the self indexing ones in the 1970's and when I saw this at a pawn shop I went for it in ignorance.
Joseph Smith had a pepper box the day he was martyred and his brother had a midsized Deringer type muzzle loader. Joseph Smith's pepper box misfired at least twice but a couple of the attackers in the would be lynch mob were wounded by pistol fire by the prisoners. There is some question about why prisoners in an unlocked upstairs room over the jail/ sheriff's office had guns and stories range from they were smuggled in by church members to the Sheriff gave them to them when he realized there would be no stopping the mob. There used to be examples of these two types of guns in the LDS church history museum just after you entered the main interior doors. My pepper box looks much bulkier than the one on display when I was there about 20 years ago.
I have still not managed to talk myself into "building a model" of Brother "Patch" Rockwell's pocket pistol via judisious use of a hacksaw upon a Colt 1851 or 1860 type. As a church security officer, Deserete Marshal and Utah Deputy Marshal he made his pocket pistols famous though unfortunately the type became known as "Avenging Angels" because of his first two positions carrying them on behalf of the LDS church and some folks giving him and his fellow officers the knick name of "Mormon Avenging Angels" though a misunderstanding of their work and a book written by a disgruntal former member of their band of law enforcement officers.
-kBob
Joseph Smith had a pepper box the day he was martyred and his brother had a midsized Deringer type muzzle loader. Joseph Smith's pepper box misfired at least twice but a couple of the attackers in the would be lynch mob were wounded by pistol fire by the prisoners. There is some question about why prisoners in an unlocked upstairs room over the jail/ sheriff's office had guns and stories range from they were smuggled in by church members to the Sheriff gave them to them when he realized there would be no stopping the mob. There used to be examples of these two types of guns in the LDS church history museum just after you entered the main interior doors. My pepper box looks much bulkier than the one on display when I was there about 20 years ago.
I have still not managed to talk myself into "building a model" of Brother "Patch" Rockwell's pocket pistol via judisious use of a hacksaw upon a Colt 1851 or 1860 type. As a church security officer, Deserete Marshal and Utah Deputy Marshal he made his pocket pistols famous though unfortunately the type became known as "Avenging Angels" because of his first two positions carrying them on behalf of the LDS church and some folks giving him and his fellow officers the knick name of "Mormon Avenging Angels" though a misunderstanding of their work and a book written by a disgruntal former member of their band of law enforcement officers.
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