THR Spiller & Burr Club
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SleazyRider
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If I'm not being too personal, how are you related to Edward Spiller?
VikingDon
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After taking my S&B apart, I've found that it is the best of both worlds (Colt & Remington).
As I mentioned in my first post, I had problems with the Remington's cylinder stop/trigger spring always breaking on me, and thought maybe because the S&B having the 3-hole screw design like the Colt (which I never had a spring breaking problem with), it would be designed like the Colt.
The cylinder stop on the S&B is interchangeable with the Colt.
Here is the cylinder stop of the Remington:
Now I think I see that it was a design flaw of the Remington, that caused the spring breakage problem. The spring would always break, where it contacted the cylinder stop. On the Rem, the stop is fastened with the same screw, that is used for the trigger. As the screw center on the Rem stop is farther from the stop lug, then it is in the Colt (& S&B), when cocking a Rem, the cylinder stop would move further, (causing more bending and stress on the spring), then on the Colts & S&B.
Interesting, the S&B has the cylinder stop interchangeable with the Colt, but other parts, like the hand & spring, interchangeable with the Rem.
So I guess the S&B used the best technologies of both Colt & Rem, to produce a superior gun.
PS Just noticed something looking at a photo of the Cabalas Spiller, and pics posted here... mine appears to have about a half inch longer barrel. It has "Cabales" stamped on the top, but seems to have a longer barrel, then the one they now sell. Anyway, I get exactly 7 inches from the cylinder to the end (6 1/8 inches from the frame)... is that the standard length?
As I mentioned in my first post, I had problems with the Remington's cylinder stop/trigger spring always breaking on me, and thought maybe because the S&B having the 3-hole screw design like the Colt (which I never had a spring breaking problem with), it would be designed like the Colt.
The cylinder stop on the S&B is interchangeable with the Colt.
Here is the cylinder stop of the Remington:
Now I think I see that it was a design flaw of the Remington, that caused the spring breakage problem. The spring would always break, where it contacted the cylinder stop. On the Rem, the stop is fastened with the same screw, that is used for the trigger. As the screw center on the Rem stop is farther from the stop lug, then it is in the Colt (& S&B), when cocking a Rem, the cylinder stop would move further, (causing more bending and stress on the spring), then on the Colts & S&B.
Interesting, the S&B has the cylinder stop interchangeable with the Colt, but other parts, like the hand & spring, interchangeable with the Rem.
So I guess the S&B used the best technologies of both Colt & Rem, to produce a superior gun.
PS Just noticed something looking at a photo of the Cabalas Spiller, and pics posted here... mine appears to have about a half inch longer barrel. It has "Cabales" stamped on the top, but seems to have a longer barrel, then the one they now sell. Anyway, I get exactly 7 inches from the cylinder to the end (6 1/8 inches from the frame)... is that the standard length?
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kBob
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Spiller,
For help with family history searches you might contact your local Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints and ask for their family research couselors and when their family research center is open. You might also visit mormon.org for information on using the church's family research materials.
Last week I learned that an ancestor joined a specific Georgia unit during the American Civil War and found information on his son in another state later using the resources of the local LDS Stake.
BTW one of my high school JROTC instructors that had a great influence on me was a Spiller.
-kBob
For help with family history searches you might contact your local Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints and ask for their family research couselors and when their family research center is open. You might also visit mormon.org for information on using the church's family research materials.
Last week I learned that an ancestor joined a specific Georgia unit during the American Civil War and found information on his son in another state later using the resources of the local LDS Stake.
BTW one of my high school JROTC instructors that had a great influence on me was a Spiller.
-kBob
LeadZinger
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New Spiller & Burr Owner
Just finished this kit of a Spiller & Burr I bought from Dixie. Paid to much but wanted something to keep idle hands busy. Had intended to take frame down to glass mirror finish but imperfections in the casting made me go for different look. After fitting and smoothing stocks I opted to leave some character flaws to match frame. Now think I will get some ebony and make some better stocks since I really like the black look. Does this qualify to join the club?
Just finished this kit of a Spiller & Burr I bought from Dixie. Paid to much but wanted something to keep idle hands busy. Had intended to take frame down to glass mirror finish but imperfections in the casting made me go for different look. After fitting and smoothing stocks I opted to leave some character flaws to match frame. Now think I will get some ebony and make some better stocks since I really like the black look. Does this qualify to join the club?
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SleazyRider
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Heck, LeadZinger, your bookshelf alone should qualify you. Anybody who has a copy of Lee's Lieutenants I'd be honored to call my friend.
Nice S&B! Have you fired it yet?
Nice S&B! Have you fired it yet?
BHP FAN
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Another descendant of the Spiller and Burr is the Ruger Old Army, which owes at least as much to the S&B [or the Whitney] as it does the Remington or Colt.
DrLaw
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Official members as of 12-6-11
Bluehawk
Madcratebuilder
BHP
Smokin Gun
Pohill
Mykeal
Jason997
Campbell49T
BillHansen
DrLaw
Sleazyrider
Col. LeMat
Fingers McGee
Rommer25
VikingDon
Leadzinger
The Doc is out now.
Bluehawk
Madcratebuilder
BHP
Smokin Gun
Pohill
Mykeal
Jason997
Campbell49T
BillHansen
DrLaw
Sleazyrider
Col. LeMat
Fingers McGee
Rommer25
VikingDon
Leadzinger
The Doc is out now.
DrLaw
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It just sort of fell on me to be the one posting the 'official list'. I'll correct it next time somebody joins. Sorry about that. The order of the people is just coincidentally from when they joined in the fun of having a Spiller & Burr.
The Doc is out now.
The Doc is out now.
BHP FAN
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We could also rearrange it alphabetically or by how many Spiller & Burrs one owns....
DrLaw
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BHP, you are going to turn this into work, aren't you!
The Doc is out now.
The Doc is out now.
45-70 Ranger
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A little assist?
Disregard.....
Disregard.....
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NCWanderer
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Gonna git me one of them there purdy S&B shooting orns purdy soon.
LeadZinger
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First Time At Range
Got the new S&B kit gun out to the range for the first time last week. Very disappointed in the performance. At 50 ft. I got three rounds out of 24 on paper, never mind the target. This thing shoots 12 inches or more to the left but only about 3 inches high. Took some time to figure out POA and a foot to the right of POI makes me uncomfortable. I was practically pointing at the shooter's target on my right!
Got the new S&B kit gun out to the range for the first time last week. Very disappointed in the performance. At 50 ft. I got three rounds out of 24 on paper, never mind the target. This thing shoots 12 inches or more to the left but only about 3 inches high. Took some time to figure out POA and a foot to the right of POI makes me uncomfortable. I was practically pointing at the shooter's target on my right!
VikingDon
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@ LeadZinger: Hmmm... just located a range outside town, and was anxious to shoot mine for the first time, but now a little discouraged. What's your charge, ball size, etc??? As a S&B is designed similar to a Remington, target sights are an option (has anyone tried target sights on a S&B???)
DrLaw
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Viking Don, Leadzinger said he built his from a kit. No telling right now if the timing is right (though it should be) or what the real problem is. Go ahead and shoot.
The S&B replica is solid. Use about 15-18 grains FFFG and a .375 pure lead (or as close as you can get to pure) ball and fire away.
BTW, the grip may seem short. Put that little finger under the grip. It was made that way by Colt (and copied by others) to control the recoil
The Doc is out now.
The S&B replica is solid. Use about 15-18 grains FFFG and a .375 pure lead (or as close as you can get to pure) ball and fire away.
BTW, the grip may seem short. Put that little finger under the grip. It was made that way by Colt (and copied by others) to control the recoil
The Doc is out now.
junkman_01
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An Army length grip (1860 Colt Army) controls recoil a lot better than a pinky under the grip.
ThorinNNY
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Well,I can`t join your Spiller & Burr club,cause I don`t have one.But I know a little about `em and I can appreciate the concept behind them. Since the South had little access to the raw materials needed to manufacture a pistol, they had to be a LOT more creative in how they used the materials they had access to.
Definitely a interesting pistol.
Definitely a interesting pistol.
BHP FAN
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This is probably one of the strongest brass framed guns made. I still wouldn't over-charge it, no need to beat up a nice pistola, but it sure seems solid.
towboat_er
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Here's mine.
BHP FAN
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Saweet!
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