Timney Trigger Unit

[theotherwaldo]

I've found that carefully burnishing contact surfaces will smooth and slightly reduce trigger pulls. Small engine valve stems are usually good for long strokes, Jo blocks and other hardened jig components for short strokes and small flat surfaces. Really rough surfaces can be pre-smoothed with the sides of carbide lathe bit stock, although their surfaces usually aren't smooth enough for a final finish. Surfaces test out as even harder after burnishing because of work hardening. Frequent checks with a jeweler's loupe or handheld microscope are a very good idea.
Almost no material is removed and the actual profiles are only minimally changed.

 

[boom boom]

I've found that carefully burnishing contact surfaces will smooth and slightly reduce trigger pulls. Small engine valve stems are usually good for long strokes, Jo blocks and other hardened jig components for short strokes and small flat surfaces. Really rough surfaces can be pre-smoothed with the sides of carbide lathe bit stock, although their surfaces usually aren't smooth enough for a final finish. Surfaces test out as even harder after burnishing because of work hardening. Frequent checks with a jeweler's loupe or handheld microscope are a very good idea.
Almost no material is removed and the actual profiles are only minimally changed.

I'm a bit old school, I use stones of varying grades and shapes depending on the task to very lightly polish. The burnishing is a good point as it will work harden the surface a bit and I tend to forget about that on metal although I bone stocks occasionally. I prefer files to do coarse removals followed by stoning but then again I don't have a lathe nor the tooling for one. I find fitting parts and polishing them by hand pretty soothing as you have to concentrate and let your mind rest a bit.

I've used the Sentry Cote for a few trigger units and been impressed as sometimes there is some pitting that you cannot remove without cutting through the case hardening and the sentry cote is a moly mix suspended in a quick drying solvent that leaves a good coating that does not attract crud. It is also easy to remove if you don't want it there.

 

[Yamavira]

Hi Everyone
Hope everyone is okay.
Still trying to get a Timney trigger out of the USA. Have had one on order through a UK importer since my first post on the subject. Their order is outstanding with Timney for nigh on a year.
USA government restrictions mean individuals not allowed to export from USA to the UK. So, despite being advertised on "the bay". I have been unable to obtain a unit unless prepared to pay a massive premium. Like 4 times the retail price.
Decided not to stand still. Had a gunsmith reduce the deep contact between the cocking lug & the trigger (hope I've got the part names correct). I have changed the trigger spring & finally spent a long long time, using micro-mesh abrasive of ever decreasing roughness, polishing every metal/ metal contact in the trigger system. The 2 trigger "bumps" are now sooo smooth & shiny. Like a mirror. Result. A much improved smooth first stage & a lighter crisp 2nd & release.
Now waiting for our government to release us from lockdown & the MOD to open up their ranges to civilian rifle clubs again so that I can go shoot it..

 

[Yamavira]

August 2021. Finally. Local dealer has emailed me that a consignment has been delivered from Timney and there is a TT201 in the consignment. . Only taken from May 2019.
Will make a post when I have installed the unit in my 7x57 Mauser. Hopefully will not entail too much fettling.
Yamavira.

 

[WVRJ]

Three of my five Mauser 98s are fitted with Timney triggers, all using models that lack the trigger-mounted safety -- a super easy upgrade. They preserve the external appearance of the rifles but some additional inletting of the original stocks was required to get them to fit properly. I believe the main difference between their Mauser trigger models has to do with fitting the geometry of the original triggerguard.

I've no experience with Timneys and the 96, but you should get some good advice here. If you still have questions, shoot Timney an email with your particulars. https://timneytriggers.com/contact-us/

BTW, Timney has been around longer than you might think. Here's an ad from the July 1956 issue of Guns magazine:

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That's a good price,but I don't see their web address,lolololol

 

[Yamavira]

Finally after 2 years of trying for a Timney trigger, supposedly for my 7x57 Mauser, It was finally delivered. Unfortunately I am not sure that it is the correct trigger for my rifle.

Attached 2 photos. One of the original Mauser trigger together with the Timney TT201 unit & the Mauser Trigger Guard.

The angles are completely opposite. The Mauser cocks when closing the bolt (push against a big spring to close & turn down to lock the bolt).

In addition even if woodwork is removed from the stock so that the Timney trigger unit drops in & functions I think the slot in the trigger guard for the trigger cannot be extended far enough back to enable the trigger to be pulled.

Attached a picture of the trigger guard. Internal length is 1.97 inches / External length is 2.15 inches / Internal height is 1.16 inches. Distance between centres of holding bolts is 7 5/8 inches.

Would welcome comments & observations from the Mauser experts here on High Road.

 

[Seedy Character]

Just an observation. I didn't install it, my buddy did, but my Timney Mauser switched from cock on close to cock on opening. Which I like much better.

This could be what you have. ????

 

[Dave DeLaurant]

According to the Timney website, the TT-203 should be the correct trigger for the Mauser 93-5-6, not the 201.

https://www.1967spud.com/shop/rifle-component/mauser-featherweight/



FWIW, this photo from Cheaper Than Dirt is supposedly the TT-203.

Out of curiosity, have you tried mounting it to the action outside of the stock, just to see what happens?

 

[Yamavira]

Good Morning.
Thanks for your reply.
Assembling the base plate onto the action as shown in the photo you will note how the Mauser trigger sits in the back half of the trigger guard. I have not opened up the trigger guard which would enable me to slot the timney trigger through the guard as measuring up indicates the timney trigger, which sits 1/2 inch further back, would be touching the inside curve of the trigger guard.
From the securing pin to the back of the Mauser trigger is 1.375 inches. The timney unit measures 1.85 inches (TT 203). With the trigger sitting 1/2 inch further back. Would appear that the 1.85 inches is the standard on the timney units & this is just too long for this rifle.