Trade M1 Carbine for Garand?
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mgkdrgn
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Keep the Carbine and buy a Mosin Nagant for $100.
Same weight and knock down as the M1 Garand. You can then start saving $ for that Garand you really want. When you get it, sell the Mosin for the same $100 you paid for it.
Same weight and knock down as the M1 Garand. You can then start saving $ for that Garand you really want. When you get it, sell the Mosin for the same $100 you paid for it.
Pete K.
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Andy-Y
If you are a member of a recognized shooting club by CMP that is... you can purchase a Garand in several states of condition. Some are field grade and others have new stocks and better metal. They seem to range from $695 to $995 or so. Fulton Armory has NEW reproductions with many options for around $1600. They even have the shortened barreled Garand "Tanker" version for $100 extra or $1600.
The next door neighbor of my brother in law purchased a new "Tanker" Garand around two years ago for what he said was $1500. I think it must have been $1500 PLUS!!. It is a very nice handling rifle with the shorter barrel and you don't give up much in feet per second, around 30 FPS per inch of shortened length.
They live in the very farthest north west area of Connecticut and between my bro in law and Ray they have over 70 acres of land with plenty of visiting Black Bears, turkeys, Fox, and Coyotes. They raised a few bulls, Rhode Island Red Hens and big fat hogs for the freezer. Ray bought the "Tanker" for his night time walks out to the animals when brings them feed and water just in case.
I met a guy at the range that had two like new Mi carbines. His best buddy tears down old buildings in New York and has found all sorts of firearms hidden in walls and under flooring.One was a like new Springfield carbine in a like new Winchester canvas bag!! He is not a shooter so he gives his finds to his buddy. I wish I had a buddy like that!!
Pete K.
If you are a member of a recognized shooting club by CMP that is... you can purchase a Garand in several states of condition. Some are field grade and others have new stocks and better metal. They seem to range from $695 to $995 or so. Fulton Armory has NEW reproductions with many options for around $1600. They even have the shortened barreled Garand "Tanker" version for $100 extra or $1600.
The next door neighbor of my brother in law purchased a new "Tanker" Garand around two years ago for what he said was $1500. I think it must have been $1500 PLUS!!. It is a very nice handling rifle with the shorter barrel and you don't give up much in feet per second, around 30 FPS per inch of shortened length.
They live in the very farthest north west area of Connecticut and between my bro in law and Ray they have over 70 acres of land with plenty of visiting Black Bears, turkeys, Fox, and Coyotes. They raised a few bulls, Rhode Island Red Hens and big fat hogs for the freezer. Ray bought the "Tanker" for his night time walks out to the animals when brings them feed and water just in case.
I met a guy at the range that had two like new Mi carbines. His best buddy tears down old buildings in New York and has found all sorts of firearms hidden in walls and under flooring.One was a like new Springfield carbine in a like new Winchester canvas bag!! He is not a shooter so he gives his finds to his buddy. I wish I had a buddy like that!!
Pete K.
Maverick223
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Springfield never produced any during the war, only later did they produce a few receivers and assemble them using surplus parts. That isn't to say that it isn't a good find, especially for a freebie, but it isn't notably collectible.
ulflyer
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Andy...does the blade of the front sight look as tho it has been filed down at some point in time? The blade should be just a bit shorter than the two ears. A number of these carbines have been filed and yours may be one of them. If so, a "new" sight with full blade may solve your problem. The correct sight should be marked behind the blade with an "n" or 'sn'. You can find one on Gunbroker ($40-50), or get a cheaper post-war replacement sight marked 'sa' or 'ria' for bout $20-30.
You'd need a puller to get the sight off, after the pin has been knocked out. Otherwise you stand to mess up the sight, or marr the barrel.
Heres one that looks filed down:http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=195725145
Heres one thats not: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=195833395
Andy...does the blade of the front sight look as tho it has been filed down at some point in time? The blade should be just a bit shorter than the two ears. A number of these carbines have been filed and yours may be one of them. If so, a "new" sight with full blade may solve your problem. The correct sight should be marked behind the blade with an "n" or 'sn'. You can find one on Gunbroker ($40-50), or get a cheaper post-war replacement sight marked 'sa' or 'ria' for bout $20-30.
You'd need a puller to get the sight off, after the pin has been knocked out. Otherwise you stand to mess up the sight, or marr the barrel.
Heres one that looks filed down:http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=195725145
Heres one thats not: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=195833395
Andy-Y
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Thanks for those links ulflyer. Yes, at close inspection it seems that the front sight was filed slightly. A "new" front sight is indeed in order.
ulflyer
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I have a nice SA (springfield armory) with full length blade if you want it.. $25 shipped, or you may want to look for one marked n.
A note on your M1 Carbine. I'm not sure what state of originality it's in, but one that has matching parts, and a stock with appropriate markings, it can be worth a tidy sum. The picture shows that it doesn't have a bayonet lug.
Only the last batch of carbines produced during the war had bayonet lugs. But at the end of the war all the carbines were sent back to the armories to be repaired and updated for redistribution, such as to CMP. Among the updates were new bayonet lug front bands. These guns have a much lower collector value because they are not original.
The lack of a bayonet lug suggests the possibility that your rifle was liberated during the war and bypassed the armory restoration (or someone may have simply replaced the front band with an older one). The odds are slim that it's all original since they are very rare, but it's worth checking out. If the components match it may be a nice collector's piece. The picture indicates that it's condition is good... worth keeping, IMO.
Only the last batch of carbines produced during the war had bayonet lugs. But at the end of the war all the carbines were sent back to the armories to be repaired and updated for redistribution, such as to CMP. Among the updates were new bayonet lug front bands. These guns have a much lower collector value because they are not original.
The lack of a bayonet lug suggests the possibility that your rifle was liberated during the war and bypassed the armory restoration (or someone may have simply replaced the front band with an older one). The odds are slim that it's all original since they are very rare, but it's worth checking out. If the components match it may be a nice collector's piece. The picture indicates that it's condition is good... worth keeping, IMO.
ulflyer
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If the serial number is between 1982520-2210000 then it should have a leaf sight. If later than that then the adjustable sight on it is correct. Chances are the carbine was converted back to its more original form by a previous owner. That doesn't take away the fact that its a desirable gun to a carbine collector. I have a bunch, but not a Standard Prod. If you decide to sell I'd be interested. If you can afford to keep it long term I'd suggest you hang on to it. The value will continue to climb in years to come.
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