Traditions finds new way to separate ML shooters from their money

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https://muzzle-loaders.com/products...MvR7P1_l6faueK4ans1j8FV1cpw0bTcIOYbxk=.BwF3Xt

https://www.federalpremium.com/muzzleloading/firestick/11-PMZFS120T8.html

The Traditions® NitroFire™ Muzzleloader Rifle is a completely new and revolutionary gun. This muzzleloader utilizes the Federal® FireStick™ system, which takes the guesswork out of muzzleloading, and increases safety and simplicity. The NitroFire muzzleloader is a great gun for beginners and experienced shooters alike. This .50 caliber muzzleloader is one of the easiest to load, requires the least equipment and accessories, and is incredibly accurate.

This Traditions NitroFire muzzleloader features a Veil™ Cervidae Camo synthetic stock, with a 26” fluted Chromoly barrel with a Burnt Bronze CeraKote™ finish. The barrel is drilled and tapped for both open sights and scope mounts for convenience and compliance with all state laws. As with many Traditions muzzleloaders, the NitroFire features a trigger safety, as well as a hammer safety, allowing for a dual safety system. Additionally, these guns come equipped with the Elite XT™ trigger system, which provides better accuracy and consistency for all shooters. This gun is built to be lightweight, maneuverable, accurate, and safe.

The barrel of this new muzzleloader is where all of the patented technology is held. The breech of the NitroFire is built to only accept the Federal Firestick, while still only allowing the bullet to be loaded from the muzzle. One of the best things about this muzzleloader is the complete removal of a breech plug of any kind. This dramatically reduces cleaning, as well as reducing the possibility of hangfires or misfires. The breech of the NitroFire allows for the use of the FireStick, but has a shelf that the bullet rests on, which allows for confident and easy loading.

The Federal FireStick is a vital component to this groundbreaking new muzzleloader. The FireStick is a plastic capsule that holds pre-measured powder charges. The ability to have identical charges on every shot allows for a more consistent velocity spread, which increases accuracy and dependability. Since the FireSticks are only used once, there is no real cleaning involved in the breech area, which speeds up reloading as well. The new technology in the Traditions NitroFire reduces the need for many common accessories, which makes it much easier for beginners to get into the sport. Powder measures, powder flasks, nipple picks, speed loaders, cappers, parts soakers, and granular or pelletized powders are not needed with this muzzleloader, which can save hunters lots of money when they are first getting into muzzleloading. With this new muzzleloader, all you’ll need to carry in the field are a couple primers, bullet, FireSticks, and a bullet starter!

The all-new Traditions NitroFire is a great muzzleloader for the entry-level or casual muzzleloading enthusiast. With this muzzleloader, all you’ll need is to choose your preferred scope or sights, grab some Federal FireSticks, bullets, and primers, and head to the range!

BTW, ships only to FFL holders

FireStick Product Overview
As long as there have been muzzleloading firearms, their shooters have been burdened by reliability, consistency and safety concerns. It ends now. Federal Premium® FireStick™ is the critical component of a whole new ignition system that uses an encapsulated propellant charge that loads from the breech, with the bullet loaded from the muzzle. The charge is completely impervious to moisture and loaded with clean-burning Hodgdon® Triple Eight powder to the same tight tolerances as Federal Premium factory ammunition, ensuring shot-to-shot consistency and accuracy muzzleloaders have never experienced. FireStick unloads quickly, simply and safely by slipping out of the action—there's no need to fire the rifle. It's the perfect match for Federal Premium Trophy® Copper or Lead Tipped muzzleloader bullets and is compatible with the new NitroFire rifle from Traditions™.

  • Polymer charge filled with clean-burning Hodgdon Triple Eight powder
  • Charges from the breech of Traditions NitroFire rifle
  • Bullet loads from the muzzle
  • Totally impervious to moisture and the elements
  • Same tight tolerances and quality controls as loaded ammunition
  • Fast, effortless loading and unloading
  • Shooter inserts 209 shotgun primer (not included)
 
Not as "New" as you might think -
The NitroFire has been discussed right here in the past.

How long will it last?
It was launched prior to the COVID panic and survived through it, so that is a feat in and of itself.

There is a bullet stop the projectile is loaded to.
The projectile can NOT be loaded from the breach end.

Here's some reading for ya if you missed it over the last couple years -
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/muzzleloading-new-from-the-shot-show.862502/

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/traditions-nitrofire.886222/#post-11888153
 
Quick answer- NO.

If you think you have to remember this, proprietary stuff can get orphaned and you're always going to pay what they ask if you want to shoot. Solve that problem, go traditional and not the brand name.
 
I do like the idea of the safety aspect of being able unload easily versus driving around with a loaded rifle in the back seat after a hunt.
However, I'm not likely to pay for it.
I don't even thing powder pellets make sense to me.
It's not that hard to measure powder.
 
It's hard for me to imagine why anybody would want to buy such an abomination. I'm guessing it's for people who want to hunt during muzzleloader season but who don't want to learn how to shoot a real muzzleloader.


Something me and Dad discussed. Surely the main appeal to those modern muzzleloaders would be to people who already like normal hunting rifles "But now it's a muzzleloader!!" I cannot judge nor condemn anyone but i would really imagine that this is the main market, people who want to still hunt during muzzleloading season but have no real interest in muzzleloaders. (There are also the minority of people who somehow find modern muzzleloaders are cool)

In all reality, this is a perfect example of how I feel caseless ammunition technology is really a joke. They're just reinventing the muzzleloader/black powders which already were fired with a form of "caseless" (paper) ammunition. Just wasn't waterproof. But if you got a muzzleloaders concept, waterproofed the medium which holds the powder charge, There you go it's literally the disposable caseless ammunition the military has been looking for for decades.

The fact the bullet itself loads from the muzzle on this example is a symptom of it being purely a loophole, again for those type who just want to hunt during muzzleloading season.
 
Those people need to move to MS. You don't have to use black powder or a muzzleloader.

Louisiana's "primitive weapons" season allows any single shot rifle 35 caliberor over.

I assume those places are using "primitive weapons season" as a game management tool. Too many deer, easier to relax the definition of "primitive" without having to amend regular seasons.
 
Louisiana's "primitive weapons" season allows any single shot rifle 35 caliberor over. A .35 Whelan, 444 Marlin or 45-70 Govt is legal.

Same in MS for the first primitive weapons season. For the last two you can use any rifle that's legal in regular gun season. If you want to use your AR 15 with 30 round mags it's legal.
 
If I was running muzzleloading seasons, you could use a original or reasonable replica of a muzzleloading era weapon, but nothing else. Maybe some wiggle room for replica powders, but you can shoot a lead projectile with or without a cloth patch.

Uncle Jimbo with his stainless synthetic-stocked ergonomic in-line using 209 primers with smokeless pellets, polymer belted copper hollow-points and fiber optic sights can hunt in the regular season.
 
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