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Tried it several times at TFL & never got an answer that satisfied. Been "a cop" myself & still wondering the tactical reasoning behind what usually follows:
I'm driving. I'm pulled over for a basic traffic stop. I'm required by CCW-issuance to inform LEO I have same & am carrying.
I carry a BHP, strong-side, cocked & locked.
Upon contact (at my driver-side window), before LEO asks (I DO volunteer & hand over, ALL info well-before LEO can even ask), LEO (by then) goes through all the motions.
First & foremost (from most encounters - one was refreshingly non-interested) is the LEO wants The Gun.
The LEO, at the time, doesn't have me at gun-point, I am not "in the position," nor am I under any sort of control. The LEO is at a huge tactical disadvantage = while I draw to "hand-to-cop," if inclined, why not just shoot 'im?
As an aside, I've found that many have no clue whatsoever how to "decock" a BHP - a single action/saftey only semi-auto.
The Question.
The LEO's asking for a very favorable situation for me to present the weapon for him to disarm - always stated as a "safety reason."
#1 - first & foremost in my mind is my own safety (duh - I was already safe before The Stop)
#2 - I could just shoot him/her. I have the tactical advantage. No question.
#3 - likley, the LEO is untrained in the safeting of my firearm & could possibly cause an AD/ND - not a good thing for any involved.
#4 - what reason could you, as an LEO, want to disarm me, a legally CCWing-type want to (bluntly) even want take away my gun?
Sorry, best I can do at the time for a valid question, but basically, if I can hand it to "you," if I was a bad guy, why wouldn't I just shoot you?
I'm driving. I'm pulled over for a basic traffic stop. I'm required by CCW-issuance to inform LEO I have same & am carrying.
I carry a BHP, strong-side, cocked & locked.
Upon contact (at my driver-side window), before LEO asks (I DO volunteer & hand over, ALL info well-before LEO can even ask), LEO (by then) goes through all the motions.
First & foremost (from most encounters - one was refreshingly non-interested) is the LEO wants The Gun.
The LEO, at the time, doesn't have me at gun-point, I am not "in the position," nor am I under any sort of control. The LEO is at a huge tactical disadvantage = while I draw to "hand-to-cop," if inclined, why not just shoot 'im?
As an aside, I've found that many have no clue whatsoever how to "decock" a BHP - a single action/saftey only semi-auto.
The Question.
The LEO's asking for a very favorable situation for me to present the weapon for him to disarm - always stated as a "safety reason."
#1 - first & foremost in my mind is my own safety (duh - I was already safe before The Stop)
#2 - I could just shoot him/her. I have the tactical advantage. No question.
#3 - likley, the LEO is untrained in the safeting of my firearm & could possibly cause an AD/ND - not a good thing for any involved.
#4 - what reason could you, as an LEO, want to disarm me, a legally CCWing-type want to (bluntly) even want take away my gun?
Sorry, best I can do at the time for a valid question, but basically, if I can hand it to "you," if I was a bad guy, why wouldn't I just shoot you?