Uberti SAA

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My sister in-law just bought a Cattleman II for my brother for Christmas . It has a floating firing pin in it as a safety , so you can carry with 6 rds. . Pull the trigger and the firing pin protrudes , release the trigger and it recesses into the hammer . One thing I noticed was with this system it lost the first notch click . The first click now is the half cock position , so you only have 3 clicks now . Uberti is going to this system on all of their revolvers I was told in a email that I received from them today . This will keep me from buying a Uberti revolver in the future .
 
I'm glad I got mine before this transition. Reminds me of safety conversion/modification for Ruger blackhawks when they did something similar. I suppose it's to avoid legal problems and lawsuits or maybe has something to do with importing safer revolvers into the US. I don't know? I prefer an old school Colt clone over a new Cattleman II.
Of course, I'd prefer a real Colt SAA over a Uberti then too. But alas ... I have none.
 
It kind of reminds me of the S&W sell out with the ILS . I don't buy them either .
 
That sucks. I like the four clicks! Glad I have my USFA SAA. An SAA is not an SAA without the four clicks.
 
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I saw a video about the new Uberti design with the floating firing pin in the hammer about six months ago. The video was shot at a European gun show by a European gun person I respect a great deal. He has several videos out about Black Powder firearms and he really knows his stuff. However I was not aware that Uberti was going to stop shipping their revolvers with the more traditional Colt style lockwork to the US.

No, this has nothing to do with regulations for shipping revolvers into the US, the safety mechanisms Uberti already uses, such as the two position center pin, cover that. So it must be from an insurance liability standpoint with Uberti. It is simple to remove the stock two position center pin from an Uberti and replace it with a more traditional one piece pin, I did that with the one Cattleman I still own. So from a product liability standpoint I'll bet Uberti is just covering their butt.

Here is a link to the video. The discussion about the new Uberti mechanism is about halfway through.



Here is a link to a video put out by Uberti.



Note, in both videos the term 'transfer bar' is used. However, the mechanism does not employ a transfer bar in the sense of a Ruger transfer bar. More properly, I would call it an actuator. The mechanism actuates the firing pin and pushes it forward. A transfer bar transfers energy from a hammer to a floating firing pin.

I can understand a little bit that folks are upset about not having four clicks, but I can assure you that when you fire a revolver that has four clicks, you don't hear the clicks. If you do, you are cocking the hammer awfully slow. Not advocating the new system, but I was shooting Rugers long before I bought a Colt style revolver, and I never had a problem with a New Model Ruger or the reduced number of clicks. Listening to four clicks is great when you are fondling the gun while watching your favorite John Wayne movie, but it doesn't make much difference on the firing line. I would be more interested in how the new mechanism affects the trigger pull, because the trigger will have to travel farther to actuate the floating firing pin than normally happens to release the hammer from the full cock notch.

That sucks. I like the four clicks! Glad I have my USFA SAA. An SAA is not an SAA without the four clicks.

Not to be too much of a nit picker, but if the gun does not say Colt on it, it is not a SAA. Single Action Army is a registered trademark of the Colt company. Nobody else can put that on their revolvers or Colt will sue the pants off of them.

P.S. Despite what the first video says, the rule about only loading five in CAS is not going to go away. Even with a Ruger, you can only load five, with the hammer down on an empty chamber in CAS, so the Ruger guys don't have an advantage over the more traditional designs.
 
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Not to be too much of a nit picker, but if the gun does not say Colt on it, it is not a SAA. Single Action Army is a registered trademark of the Colt company. Nobody else can put that on their revolvers or Colt will sue the pants off of them.

P.S. Despite what the first video says, the rule about only loading five in CAS is not going to go away. Even with a Ruger, you can only load five, with the hammer down on an empty chamber in CAS, so the Ruger guys don't have an advantage over the more traditional designs.

I do understand that. A Colt is a real SAA. I'd like to own one someday, but they are as rare as hens teeth for a "reasonable" price.
 
IMHO, "SAA" is no different from 1911 when used in conversation. Beats having to remember all the goofy names given to SAA replicas by all the various importers.
 
Pull the trigger and the firing pin protrudes , release the trigger and it recesses into the hammer .

The video shows a spring and plunger actuating the firing pin when the trigger is pulled. So if the spring breaks or the plunger malfunctions the gun won't fire. That doesn't sound like a good design to me. For anyone who actually owns one of these guns, is that true? The old system worked pretty good for the last 143 years. Is this change really necessary or just another "lawyer device"?
 
All I know is what the video shows. As DJ says, the legalities are covered by the silly long base pin "safety."
In my opinion, it is directed at the casual shooter not affected by CAS match rules; who just wants to load and shoot.
(There is also a Uberti safety with a tipping hammer block actuated by the trigger sear nose pushing a rod buried in the quarter cock notch. Is that strong enough for six? I don't know, but it is hardly more complicated than the moving firing pin design.)
 
My sister in law sent the Cattleman II back and got the Cattleman at my suggestion . Luck for her and my brother the call in instant background check was running 2 hours behind , so the FFL dealer told her to come back .

My brother shot it Monday and said it was dead on accurate and he loved it .
 
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