UGLY GUNS...

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Some people think the Chiappa Rhino is ugly. Me? I kind of like the aggressive look it gives to a revolver. While I wasn't a fan of the Mossberg 464 SPX (the tactical lever action), I liked the idea. Just wish they made them with the 20" carbine barrel and not a flashhider 16". Might buy parts from Ranger Point Precision for my 336 and make it look more modern.
 

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Hunter 08 said:
Some people think the Chiappa Rhino is ugly. Me? I kind of like the aggressive look it gives to a revolver. While I wasn't a fan of the Mossberg 464 SPX (the tactical lever action), I liked the idea. Just wish they made them with the 20" carbine barrel and not a flashhider 16". Might buy parts from Ranger Point Precision for my 336 and make it look more modern.
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I’m doing that too! but I’m going to make my RPP forend look distress and put cedar wood mloc panels on it too. Thinking unfinished cedar, but kidda don’t want splinters, might plane it
 
Carl N. Brown said:
I posted this before on the space gun thread, my Explorer II pistol.
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Since then I added a laser sight, because acquiring a sight picture in a pistol scope is slow.
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There are reasons no one making the AR-7 after Charter Arms has tried to revive the Explorer II Pistol.
They are ugly.
Finding this was kinda like finding a homely stray pup that no else one wants but it looks at me with big sad eyes.
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Ugly is as ugly does. My rifle version couldn't get through a magazine without jamming.
 
Speedo66: "Ugly is as ugly does. My rifle version couldn't get through a magazine without jamming."

I have the Charter Arms AR-7 Explorer II pistol and an ArmaLite AR-7 Explorer rifle that I bought used as project guns.
They will fire full magazines of CCI MiniMag .22 LR 40gr Copperplated Round Nose with good accuracy.
They function well with CCI Stinger also, but the pistol shoots patterns (not groups) with Stingers.
They gag on just about every other common .22 LR.
My personal theory is that Eugene Stoner developed the AR-7 at the ArmaLite division of Fairchild military aircraft factory using the military M24 .22 LR Air Crew Survival Weapon cartridge: 40.5gr FMJ roundnose bullet and a powder charge heavier than .22 LR high Velocity. Which in the 1950s was commercially available as Remington M24, made in the US and Canada.
The weight of the bolt and the twin recoil springs are too heavy for a lot of common .22 LR ammos.
 
Rule3 said:
I always thought this was the ugliest gun ever!
People bought these??
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EGAD! Oh thanks a bunch, now I can't unsee that!

Hal said:
Ugly?
Glock.

Matter of fact, not just Glock but - all the Glock-like poly-crap stuff out there,, down to and including rubber things that sort of look like grips - that are stuck on guns where wood should go.

I find all of that unpleasing to my eye.

Not that that is a bad thing. My Ruger LCP is a constant companion & my .45acp Shield is a wonder of modern manufacturing & I can't see anywhere near putting wood grips on my S&W M69.
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Yup that's right. Been carrying 10mm in the woods since the 80s. It was a Colt Delta Elite, the only one available back then, but in 2000 or so, I changed that to a Glock 29, the second of my Glocks. Why? The Delta was still quite lovely and I wanted to put it in the safe as is. And as we all know, you can't ugly up a Glock in the woods.
 
Mark_Mark said:
I’m doing that too! but I’m going to make my RPP forend look distress and put cedar wood mloc panels on it too. Thinking unfinished cedar, but kidda don’t want splinters, might plane it
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Rough sanding might suffice. Maybe 240 grit. Smooth enough to not splinter in the hand, but rough enough to look unfinished.
 
Carl N. Brown said:
Speedo66: "Ugly is as ugly does. My rifle version couldn't get through a magazine without jamming."

I have the Charter Arms AR-7 Explorer II pistol and an ArmaLite AR-7 Explorer rifle that I bought used as project guns.
They will fire full magazines of CCI MiniMag .22 LR 40gr Copperplated Round Nose with good accuracy.
They function well with CCI Stinger also, but the pistol shoots patterns (not groups) with Stingers.
They gag on just about every other common .22 LR.
My personal theory is that Eugene Stoner developed the AR-7 at the ArmaLite division of Fairchild military aircraft factory using the military M24 .22 LR Air Crew Survival Weapon cartridge: 40.5gr FMJ roundnose bullet and a powder charge heavier than .22 LR high Velocity. Which in the 1950s was commercially available as Remington M24, made in the US and Canada.
The weight of the bolt and the twin recoil springs are too heavy for a lot of common .22 LR ammos.
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That sounds logical. I sent mine back to Charter Arms twice, couldn't solve the jamming problem.

No mention was made as to ammo being possible cause. And down the road it went, eventually replaced by a Marlin Papoose, which runs flawlessly.
 
Speedo66 said:
That sounds logical. I sent mine back to Charter Arms twice, couldn't solve the jamming problem.

No mention was made as to ammo being possible cause. And down the road it went, eventually replaced by a Marlin Papoose, which runs flawlessly.
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they still sell that AR-7 pistol?
 
Carl N. Brown said:
Mark_Mark: they still sell that AR-7 pistol?

Charter manufactured the Explorer II pistol version from 1980 to 1986. I found my example in a Virginia pawnshop in 2002.
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really! if I ever see one, I’m pulling the trigger! Something about it say… If Germany won the war, Man in The High Castle, 60’s
 
JT-AR-MG42

I had an Astra 600 and quickly came to the notion that straight blowback in a 9mm. pistol was never a good idea!

"Lost Command" is a great flick! Got to love seeing all of those MAT 49s in action!
 
Mark_Mark said:
Bubba back in the days were really good
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Still hurts the C&R collector in me but I agree, the old school post both war Bubbas, a lot of them did some fine craftsmanship to make some sweet deer rifles with all of those Mausers and Enfields.
Back in the day when money was tight and people needed a good deer rifle to put meat on the table, I've seen some beautifully adapted milsurps from that era.
 
bannockburn said:
JT-AR-MG42

I had an Astra 600 and quickly came to the notion that straight blowback in a 9mm. pistol was never a good idea!

"Lost Command" is a great flick! Got to love seeing all of those MAT 49s in action!
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I'll have to figure out a way to see that film, I've never seen it but as an Astra 600 owner, it would be cool to watch.
I agree, 9mm straight blowback pistol isn't pleasant to shoot at all.
 
fjblair said:
All plastic guns are ugly but Glock takes ugly to the limit.
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I only own one Glock, my G17. I agree, it's hideous looking but reliable as heck and a good shooter. All Glocks are pretty ugly, and I agree, most of my other plastic pistols are as well.
I actually like the looks and lines of my little P64, a Polish Walther PPK look alike and my Bulgarian Makarov is kind of pleasant to look at.

I have to say, my two CZ52s have an aesthetic like they were designed by Citroen, even though they were Czech. Kind of ugly but super cool too. I somehow ended up with two of them, I bought one and then one came in a three gun C&R package deal so I had to take it. I didn't really need a second one but the seller would only sell it as a lot so now I have two of them!

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Carl N. Brown said:
I posted this before on the space gun thread, my Explorer II pistol.
index.php

Since then I added a laser sight, because acquiring a sight picture in a pistol scope is slow.
View attachment 1095541
There are reasons no one making the AR-7 after Charter Arms has tried to revive the Explorer II Pistol.
They are ugly.
Finding this was kinda like finding a homely stray pup that no else one wants but it looks at me with big sad eyes.
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No, that’s a bee-you-tee-ful pistola! I really like it!
 
Capybara

It's available on ebay for $13.99. First rate musical score by Franz Waxman, especially the opening sequence where French Foreign Legion paratroopers are jumping into what's left of the French base at Dien Bien Phu in the northwest area of what was then French Indochina. Waxman also did a similar treatment involving U.S. paratroopers in the WWII film "Objective Burma" with Errol Flynn. To keep this gun related it was one of the first movies I ever saw with Flynn's character using an M1A1 Carbine! I didn't see another M1A1 carbine featured like that in a movie until "Band of Brothers" was aired.
 
Capybara said:
Still hurts the C&R collector in me but I agree, the old school post both war Bubbas, a lot of them did some fine craftsmanship to make some sweet deer rifles with all of those Mausers and Enfields.
Back in the day when money was tight and people needed a good deer rifle to put meat on the table, I've seen some beautifully adapted milsurps from that era.
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sorry man, I’m pro Bubba! I feel that money is overrated. Love the sporters from the 50’s.
 
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