Uh oh, bore brush lodged in barrel!

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Do it the simple way. Try shooting it out and if that doesn't work, use the tube as Rod Doc and Curator suggested.

If shooting the obstruction out would damage the barrels, then all of my 12 muzzleloaders would be ruined by now. P.S. They are still in fine shape.
 
Once again, try all those suggestions before you remove the breech plug. Getting it out could be a major pain in the b@$ls to say the least about getting it back in the same place with the same amount of torque as when it was originally installed. You don't want it loose or clocked in a different position when it's reinstalled. I have seen and had this problem more than once.
 
A lot of guns have been screwed up by guys who though it would be easy to do with a wrench. If you must have it out take it to a qualified gunsmith. Any of the suggestions here would be better than pulling out the breech plug, and probably a lot cheaper than replacing the barrel

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Let's reiterate here, TUBING WORKS. Cheap, easy. Had to do it once on my 1862 Springfield and I'm a believer.
 
Way to go Bernie, I had the same problem, only a dry ball in a single shot pistol and a rod that pulled off the screw thingy I was trying to pull the ball with. Perseverance and some epoxy won the day.
 
J-bar's answer was the winner! The first time I did not get enough epoxy in the dowel rod hole and it did not hold. I tried it again and got it out this afternoon. Thanks for all the input, folks!

Delighted to have been of service.
 
Glad to read that you got it out.

Two things that might help for next time or for the next person that has this issue. You can buy thin wall brass tubing from model railroad hobby shops sold under the K&S brand name. Typically the rack will have telescoping sizes of tubing up to .50" in 1/32 inch size increments. And the wall thickness is just under .015" to allow the slip fit. The downside is that they only come in 12" lengths for the most part. So you'll need to attach it to some dowel.

Next up is that when cleaning "dead ended" barrels I use a shotgun cleaning rod so I can twist the handle slightly at the end of the travel to fold the bristles and let them turn for the return stroke. I've never had a brush even come close to locking in place with this. Mind you I don't wrap a patch around it and shove it down the bore either. That might change the dynamics of the situation.
 
The original issue here is not a problem with what the OP was doing to get the brush stuck. The problem is the totally useless brushes being foisted on the shooting public by what used to be trustworthy merchants. I have a revolver that I had been shooting cast lead bullets in, and the bore had become fouled with lead. I had previously purchased a supply of "Brand O" brass .38 brushes and tried to scrub the lead out with them. As long as you were pushing the brush through the bore you were OK, but when you tried to pull the brush back the other way the threaded fitting on the end of the brush where it screws on to the cleaning rod would pull off of the bristle part of the brush. I thought the first one was a fluke, but when it happened to two brushes in quick succession I know the quality of the brush had gone down the toilet. "Brand O" has lost me as a customer.
 
shooting out won't hurt the gun like an unseated ball can
the powder charge is in front of the obstruction
If it goes off which may be questionable as the flash hole may be blocked.
But if does good chance it will burn some of the patch away allowing a better chance with the wood dowel
in the future for newbies and those that don't know
Many BP rifles have what they call a patent breech the breech (where the powder actually sits ) is substantially smaller than the bore thus the reason your brush gets stuck
to clean the breech use a breech scraper or a breech brush
 
Just a thought, curiosity really, at what point in the development of firearms did brass bristle brushes enter the scene. As far back as the civil war, further back, revolution, pre revolution.

I never seem to need a brass brush on my revolvers, do rifles or muskets lead up enough to warrant their use.
 
The Renegade is a traditional style muzzle loader. I am pretty sure that there is no breech plug.
Yes, there is a breech plug. It contains the bolster for the nipple and screws into the rear of the barrel. There is a specific breech plug wrench for it. What "traditional" muzzle loader doesn't have a breech plug? Or are you thinking of a "clean out" plug?
 
From an old manual somewhere in the distant past comes a memory of being instructed to "never reverse a brass or bronze bore brush" in the bore. Fiber, yes. At the least you'll ruin the brush, at most,,,,,get it stuck.
 
Straighten a wire coat hanger and bend a small hook in the end, shove it into the brush and it will catch the bristles.
 
I once broke a wooden ram rod off trying to retrieve a patched ball seated without a powder charge. After some thought I removed the nipple, trickled in some powder and shot it out. Worked perfect. Never did find the rest of that ramrod. hdbiker
 
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