Unusual need to be armed the antis won’t like

[Zaydok Allen]

I really like animals, and in many circumstances prefer their company to humans.

That being said, I've been bit by a vicious dog while on the job, been charged by several, and had one follow me home one night while I was walking home from work. It tried to get behind me to chomp on me three times until I dropped my stuff and started chasing it down the street yelling at it. It didn't come back again.

There are many bad owners out there, and just like humans, there are select individual dogs that were born crazy and are dangerous. I'd feel a little bad, but I have decided I'm done caring about if it's someone's pet. If a dog tries to nibble on me or a bystander, I'm not going to hesitate.

Aggression towards humans is a behavior that can be learned. To allow the behavior to be demonstrated to other dogs does a disservice to the species, same as non-domesticated predators.

Train and socialize your dogs, and recognize that not everyone is comfortable around them, nor likes them.

 

[Infidel]

.... I make no bones about it; if a dog barking, growling is running at me, ...., I am going to shoot it. .....

I don't worry so much about the barking dog, but rather the one that is silent, deadly silent. The barker is communicating, the silent one means business.

 

[Hokie_PhD]

I don't worry so much about the barking dog, but rather the one that is silent, deadly silent. The barker is communicating, the silent one means business.

We had a German Shepherd that was like that. She’d let anyone in the house. But once you were in, she’d stare down them down until someone told her it was ok.

I can’t count the times someone came to the house to do something such as Cable TV, septic tank cleaner, etc and were trapped in a corner scared.

Come to think about it, I don’t recall her ever barking. I do recall her growling at me when I reprimanded my then two year old son for pulling handfuls of her fur out. Gotta love a dog that will protect a child even after they caused the poor thing a lot of pain.

 

[JR24]

The whole reason I started EDC were some rotts in my neighborhood that were aggressive and never chained. No big deal to me on their turf, but when they come down my street, different story. (Also, I had just moved to a free State)

Amusing that it was the reason because I am one of those people that even aggressive dogs that hate everyone instantly like and accept me, surprised the heck out of several friends and folk on my old delivery route. Kind words and no fear, I guess.

 

[theotherwaldo]

I consider it to be a sin to harm or kill anything or anyone unnecessarily.
I consider it to be a greater sin to NOT kill when it is necessary.
I consider it to be the greatest sin to prevent a person from being able to kill when that killing is necessary.

 

[RPZ]

I don't worry so much about the barking dog, but rather the one that is silent, deadly silent. The barker is communicating, the silent one means business.

I have come across growlers, barkers - and the silent type. Regardless, they make a bee line for me and I'm not confident about any non lethal approach it is going to get shot

 

[straightshooterjake]

The title of this thread is "Unusual need to be armed the antis won’t like." I cannot speak for what anyone else does or does not like, but I do not agree that protection from animals is an "unusual need." In more heavily populated areas, dogs are the most likely threatening animal, and in less populated areas, there are both dogs and wildlife. But in either type of environment, you can have situations where animals pose a threat to human life.

As many of the stories in this thread indicate, dogs can be a real concern, even in areas where wildlife are unlikely to be a problem.

 

[hdwhit]

bikerdoc wrote:
I have had big dogs for the last 50 years. German shepherd, pits, and Rotts
Never had one misbehave.

That's exactly the same thing the guy said when his unleashed dog attacked me in my front yard while I was spraying weed killer on the lawn. The dog ignored all of his commands to stop and resisted the owner's attempts to pull the dog off me.

While I declined to take any legal action against the owner, my health insurer was not so gracious. By the time the dog's owner was done reimbursing them for my medical bills (and the insurance company's costs of taking him to court) he never again had his dogs outside the house off a leash.

 

[hdwhit]

Unusual need to be armed the antis won’t like

I would suggest that since the most vocal amongst what you are calling "antis" see no basis for individual ownership of firearms at all that any "need" identified here would be one the "antis" would not like.

I would further suggest you re-pose the question as needs for an individual to be armed that even the "antis" could not posit a rational objection to.

 

[Tirod]

My new neighbors like to rescue animals, the cats are just fine, the smaller dogs can roam with no problems, the standard sized Dalmation seems family oriented and non aggressive, but latest large black dog with Doberman trimmed ears much less so as when he is allowed to roam he will bark at you on your own property.

I am loathe to go so far as shoot any pet - it's a last resort - but those owners who allow their larger animals to roam need to be more sensitive. The large dog isn't like the 17 year old deaf three legged cat from the same home, and treating them as equals in risk assessment is more than obtuse. So is assuming that all your neighbors are tolerant and will put up with someone's cold nose from out of nowhere. (The two smaller dogs tag team that way, the little porker silently gets between your feet and the slightly larger one then barks from 8 yards away startling you. It's finally become funny - after six months.

Not so the large black dog challenging your property rights in a city with leash laws. Fencing by one or both is where this will go. It still doesn't fix the shared lane we drive on or stroll to get the mail.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

The difference between a gun and a dog is this: A gun will not leave your property and attack your neighbor all by itself.

People who own dogs (and I have a pit bull) are RESPONSIBLE for their dogs and must exercise the same or a greater degree of caution that a gun owner exercises.

 

[tomturkey]

I was siting at the vets with my year old lab laying at my feet when a young couple came in with about an 8 week old pit pup. It started growling and snarling at my lab. They thought it was funny. It was all I could do to keep from going over and slapping the owners along side of the head. I waned to tell them if they did not stop this type of behavior from the pup now they would not be able to control it when it got bigger.

 

[PCFlorida]

Long story shorter.
About a year ago I went to check on our renter who was 3 months behind in the rent, no longer answered the phone and had ignored a legally filed eviction notice. The gate to the property was open which it never was in the past. I thought she had moved. As I was on my way to the Dr. office I was wearing flip flops and had left my sidearm in the console of my truck. When I walked down to the house and back out her pitbulls attacked me (never made a sound). I heard them running at me and turned to run and ran right out of my flip flop. Game over. Thank goodness the neighbor was a brave young man and beat them with a bat until they backed off. I got 140 stitches in my arms, back, chest and neck. Fun times. The dogs were put down and the renter removed. The house was trashed and we are in the process of selling it. I no longer wear flip flops and don't take my sidearm off until I am in the parking lot of the Dr.

 

[old lady new shooter]

Long story shorter.
About a year ago I went to check on our renter who was 3 months behind in the rent, no longer answered the phone and had ignored a legally filed eviction notice. The gate to the property was open which it never was in the past. I thought she had moved. As I was on my way to the Dr. office I was wearing flip flops and had left my sidearm in the console of my truck. When I walked down to the house and back out her pitbulls attacked me (never made a sound). I heard them running at me and turned to run and ran right out of my flip flop. Game over. Thank goodness the neighbor was a brave young man and beat them with a bat until they backed off. I got 140 stitches in my arms, back, chest and neck. Fun times. The dogs were put down and the renter removed. The house was trashed and we are in the process of selling it.

I no longer wear flip flops and don't take my sidearm off until I am in the parking lot of the Dr.

Very good decisions.

 

[PCFlorida]

BTW, we raise and train Rottweilers and I am not afraid of dogs. Not afraid of trained dogs anyway. The Pitbulls were untrained or they would not have attacked me.