VA gubernatorial candidate wants CO gun laws

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The latest polls show McAuliffe leading Cuccinelli by about 5 percentage points. But the Libertarian candidate, Robert Sarvis, polls as high as 10%. Gun owners voting for Sarvis could well throw the election to McAuliffe. This is clearly a case in which the "perfect" is the enemy of the good.[/QUOTE]

Amen!

Remember Ross Perot in the Presidential elections of '92 and '96? His supporters "voted their conscience" thereby splitting the conservative vote, and we ended up with Bill Clinton as a result. It's good this lesson is not lost and is being brought to light for the benefit of those less familiar with political realities.

Best wishes, Virginia!
 
longknife12 said:
This was crammed down our throats in Colorado! Trust me, it was a Bloomie/ Obama written package of stuff. Be very wary of this. I sincerely
did not think Va had gone that lib.
Dan
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Big surprise for you. There are very few Virginians in Northern Virginia. While I do not like either candidate I would tend to favor McAuliffe. That means he will probably be next governor of Va.
 
I have a question though, how much power would a VA governor have in these matters? Even if he does support it, what's the chances of him being able to act on it?
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Relatively speaking, not very much. For one thing, he's term-limited to a single 4-year term. But, he can talk up a storm.

This McAuliffe thing is really all about laying the groundwork for a Hillary Clinton run for the presidency in 2016. It would help her tremenously to have a close buddy as the sitting governor in a key swing state.

Gun owners should fear a new Clinton presidency more than the Obama presidency. She's twice as competent and more ideological than Obama. If elected (and she gets a Democratic Congress), you can bet that guns are going to be among the first things on her agenda.
 
I think if he gets elected...I could see Mr Bloomberg and the MAIG bus tour would be invited there to tour the whole state. Its not just having an anti-gun governor that is just the issue, its what comes with an anti-gun governor that is the issue. Isn't the Brady Bunch out of Virginia too?

Good Luck to our friends in Virginia...
 
Wandering off into the political weeds. Activism threads are supposed to have a specific of action about ONE issue. Don't see that here.
 
Let's stay focused on the original question of the VA Governor's election, the 2A impact, and some sort of plan of action and not drift off into other discussions. If you think those are worth talking about start another thread.
 
AlexanderA said:
The latest polls show McAuliffe leading Cuccinelli by about 5 percentage points. But the Libertarian candidate, Robert Sarvis, polls as high as 10%. Gun owners voting for Sarvis could well throw the election to McAuliffe. This is clearly a case in which the "perfect" is the enemy of the good.
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They should just make a deal where Sarvis gets some sort of head adviser position, that way they actually win..

'Better to be a live dog then a dead lion.'

Better to have a limited say then no say.
 
csspecs said:
They should just make a deal where Sarvis gets some sort of head adviser position, that way they actually win..

'Better to be a live dog then a dead lion.'

Better to have a limited say then no say.
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Right? "Look, man, no way you're gonna win. Dropout and you can be secretary of something or another. Yeah?"
 
"These measures respect Virginians’ right to bear arms while reducing gun violence."

Code words for bans and confiscation. And what did anyone expect from a left-wing Democrat? When anyone says that he respects a right, that means he plans to take it away. The leftist press has crucified Cuccinelli with unrelenting and vicious attacks, many with no basis in fact. The Republicans have been painted as corrupt, and the Democrats say they will do something about that. They sure will. If they win, Virginia will become as corrupt as Maryland, with Bloomberg's checkbook running the state.

Jim
 
The difference between Maryland and Virginia is the makeup of their legislatures. The Virginia GA would never go for any of his gun control proposals.
 
For those who think their votes don't matter, given their choices, you'd better start thinking again. Such political apathy is pathetic and counter-productive.

Your political clout doesn't end with your vote. Who you help put into office, and why, is a powerful message. And just because you helped vote somebody into office (or out of office, as the case may be) doesn't mean that your power and influence stops there.

If you ain't making your wishes known to your political officials, whomever they may be and whether or not you voted for them, then you're not following through on your end of the bargain.

An elected official, in addition to having his own political beliefs and ideologies, is SUPPOSED to be representing the people in his jurisdiction. His beliefs, his political party's beliefs, and the citizens in his electorate are in a balance that's always in flux.

Putting a candidate into office is part of it. TELLING the political candidate WHY you put him into office is another part of it. Informing the political candidate that you'll be happy to either vote to keep him in or to give him the boot is a bargaining chip that YOU have.

The only thing I will tell people who decide NOT to vote is that I don't want to hear any griping at all about anything political concerning any associated politicians or politics. NOT ONE WORD!
 
With McAuliffe being outspoken anti-gun and seems to be leading in the polls… If the very unfortunate possibility comes to it, what can an anti-gun governor do when he clashes with the with VA General Assembly? He needs a bill to sign when it comes to gun laws does he not? I am concerned about one area, trying to weaken VA’s Dillon Rule when it involves firearms. (Just a quick definition for those not familiar, The Dillon Rule narrowly defines the power of local governments. See http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/government/about/dillon-rule.htm ).

I reasonably sure the VA General Assembly is needed to defer the state’s power on an issue. If that weren’t the case, it’ll be a mess. see
the off-topic article that covers deferring state power at http://northernvirginialawyer.blogspot.com/2012/10/power-over-virginia-property-rights-can.html and scroll about 1/3 the way down to the Dillion Rule heading. There are some VA localities that would love to have their own strict gun laws. The City Richmond and those across the river from DC being some of them.
 
steelerdude99 said:
With McAuliffe being outspoken anti-gun and seems to be leading in the polls… If the very unfortunate possibility comes to it, what can an anti-gun governor do when he clashes with the with VA General Assembly? He needs a bill to sign when it comes to gun laws does he not? I am concerned about one area, trying to weaken VA’s Dillon Rule when it involves firearms. (Just a quick definition for those not familiar, The Dillon Rule narrowly defines the power of local governments. See http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/government/about/dillon-rule.htm ).

I reasonably sure the VA General Assembly is needed to defer the state’s power on an issue. If that weren’t the case, it’ll be a mess. see
http://northernvirginialawyer.blogspot.com/2012/10/power-over-virginia-property-rights-can.html and scroll about 1/3 the way down to the Dillion Rule heading. There are some VA localities that would love to have their own strict gun laws. The City Richmond and those across the river from DC being some of them.
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I've no doubt the liberal "urban centers" that McAuliffe loves so much would be just giddy to enact local firearm ordinances however the General Assembly has preempted localities ability to legislate with reference to firearms (with some minor exceptions like regulating the discharge of a firearm).

I'm sure everyone will be very happy to see that the good folks at the NRA have finally decided to get involved in this election. H. Ross Perot once talked about the "big sucking sound" coming from jobs leaving America. Well, I predict in three weeks or so once the anti-McAuliffe gun ads run there will be a big sucking sound of voters abandoning Terry.
 
W.E.G. said:
The General Assembly is likely to have none of that Colorado garbage.
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While I agree that the General Assembly would probably not approve any of his gun control legislation, I can't say this for sure. I don't want to have to worry about it. Let's just elect Cuccinelli and move on with our lives.
 
Easy to say, but what do you propose to do to get there?

I'm seeing a lot of don't like X/do like Y, but what is anyone actually proposing to DO to make sure that the right to keep and bear arms is protected in VA? If you don't plan on doing anything other than voting you're not doing enough.
 
The NRA commercials should start airing today. Anyone have a link to YouTube or somewhere where we can watch it?
 
McAuliffe, as you know, is a carpet-bagger, a Noo Yawka who wants to be governor of Virginia, just to show Virginians he can. He actually tried to run with an official Noo Yawk residence last time.

He also boasted that he had been asked to join the Knights of Columbus (a Catholic fraternal organization.) The Supreme Knight publicly announced he wasn't wanted and wasn't eligible.

Virginians should send him the same message.
 
When are Republicans going to learn to just shut up on personal and moral issues? Talk jobs, finance and personal freedom and win the darn election. Then you can do some of your other pet projects.
 
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