Wal-mart quit selling "black" guns?

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As far as I know they weren't selling pistols at all.
We do in AK only. As for some of the other comments:

we have a few FFL's on here, maybe they can chime in on how well they are moving now-a-days.

What sells at the LGS and what sells at Wal-Mart aren't necessarily the same thing. I know this because I have worked at both.

I'd have to think that semi-auto rifles are one of their better sellers.

No, they are not. Bolt action rifles, both .22 and centerfire are. Pump shotguns sell good, too.

By Julia Glum.Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the largest gun retailer in the United States, confirmed Wednesday it will stop selling assault and sporting rifles at its stores.

Just a little typical reporter bias there. Wal-Mart has never sold assault rifles, which as we all know, are NFA items.

"We previously carried modern sporting rifles in less than a third of our stores,” Lundberg said. “Our merchandising decisions are driven largely by customer demand. In our everyday course of doing business, we are continually reviewing and adjusting our product assortment to meet our customers’ needs."

This statement is correct. AR's were not sold in that many stores, and they were not a big seller in those. Whether this is due to the socioeconomic status of the customer is debatable, as many affluent people also shop at Wal-Mart. I personally think it was due to people generally not associating Wal-Mart with modern sporting rifles.

"Our focus in terms of firearms should be hunters and people who shoot sporting clays, and things like that," said McMillon in June. "So the types of rifles we sell, the types of ammunition we sell, should be curated for those things."


When asked at the time if he would curtail sales of semiautomatic guns, McMillon said "yes."

Do you have a source for this quote? One was supplied for the above quote.

Wal-Mart has gone through CEO's faster than they (the CEO's)can change underwear, it seems. Just about the time I find out who the head honcho is, it's changed. So policies vacillate. McMillan does sound a bit Fuddy in that quote.

What are the odds that Wal-Mart would still be selling AR15s and AKs all day long if they were Norinco brand?
:) That's a good one!
In reality, they'd have made the same decision.:(


They aren't - most folks who frequent Walmart do so because finances are a little tight these past few years - they might have enough to buy a Pardner pump or similar, but they aren't shelling out $800+ for an AR.

Walmart has some of the best inventory analysts anywhere and the company operates on huge volumes at tight margins to create low prices. Their costs are WAY up after granting almost a billion dollars in wage increases alone, so expensive stuff that doesn't sell gets axed; plain and simple.
There might be one or two in mgt who think it might lessen some $$$ exposure because high-capacity weapons are the supposed favorite of mass murderers and if they don't sell them, their fannies are better protected - but in reality it simply comes down to dollars and cents. They do not want an $800 item - no matter what it - languishing for months on the shelves eating their margins with carrying costs.

For some, this is true, but people of all income levels shop at Wal-Mart, from those on public assistance to millionares.

The rest of your statement is spot on.:)
 
Time to ban Wal-Mart?

Not only did the CEO make those above statements in their announcement to stop selling "evil" black rifles. He brought up the "more guns have killed people since 1968 then all the U.S. wars"!

Fudd is running high at Wal-Mart, guess they need to go the way K-Mart went when they let Rosie-O-Donut talk for them.
 
I guess we'll see their intent when another sales boom comes on and they restock with AR's or not. I think probably not.
 
Our local ABC news in Raleigh NC had about the W*M decision to stop selling the so called Evil Black Rifles. They said it was due to lack of sales and it was nothing political. I don't believe that for a minute.
W*M claims that they only sold this type of rifle in about 1/3 of their stores. They also commented that W*M will replace these rifles with more hunting rifles and shotguns.
Of course when they started the news clip it showed semi auto handguns in a show case which I haven't seen in years @ a W*M accept when I was in Alaska some years back.

I'm not a big fan of W*M to begin with and this sure isn't making me like them any better.
 
WalMart in AK were still full of handguns last summer. Wonder what that motivation is?
 
The ars at the Walmart up by my girlfriends never really moved in the two years I been dating her one bushmaster had dust on it last I seen.
but I'm not surprised walmart isn't exactly where you go for big ticket items, especially ones they sell for more than every body els. (Think the whole idea of going to walmart is to pay less not msrp)
not to mention a good lgs will help you out if something goes wrong with your new rifle walmart no such luck.
 
As far as I can tell, they pulled everything at my local store that didn't sell. The cabinet was full of AR's on clearance all week before today, I doubt they sold all of them in one day. The also cleared out any ammo with pictures of black rifles on the box over the past week. Also notable, their large selection of airsoft and "tactical" air rifles are gone. Not politically motivated? Yeah, sure.
 
Wall-Mart Business SOP

Wall-Mart contracts to purchase products at an ever reducing cost.
Colt filed chapter 11.
The AR market has reached the saturation point for now.
If Wall-Mart cannot buy product next year for less than Wall-Mart bought that same product last year, Wall-Mart will not contract to purchase from that provider.

Maybe this is a positive, maybe not.
 
Our local news reported this morning that our area Walmart would stop selling semi automatic rifles. All the shelves are devoid of AR and Mini 14 rifles at the 3 stores I checked.
 
There was a crawl across the bottom of the screen on either FOX or one of the financial channels (FOX Business News or CNBC) the other day about Walmart's decision to no longer sell AR-15's and other semi-auto rifles.

The crawl stated they are not stopping sales because of political / recent news reasons, but because of changing customer buying patterns.

Well, that's what the crawl said.
1. Doesn't mean the crawl was correct (it sounded like the chain and not selected stores).
2. If they are changing, I don't know if it's because of sales, political reasons, or? With the cratering of AR prices lately, I'm sure their sales have dropped off a lot?
 
i mean, its not like the market isnt flooded with ARs....

hell, every range i go to, there are at least half a dozen flyers for people selling their ARs..

people bought these things in troves during the last election....and now that they realize they:

1) arent actually going to be banned any time soon

2) the gun has been sitting unshot in the safe for the past few years

they are selling them off cheap......

i mean, im not going to go to Walmart and pay $800-900 for an AR, when i can pick one up Like-new used for $600....
 
I checked with our Sporting Goods manager (who also happens to be my best friend) and although the AR's all gone, as well as the Stevens 320's, short 870's and Mossberg Flex 500's, the MIni-14's were still there, and not on clearance.

Whether this was politically motivated from the top, or financially motivated from the bean counters, it seems one version fits in well with the other for the top honchos. I am actually surprised McMillon said such things, even to Forbes, where he'd figure it wouldn't get out to the unwashed masses. They usually are a but more savvy than that. It would have been more expedient to just announce it was due to sales, (which is true) than to risk backlash by making statements like McMillon's.

WalMart in AK were still full of handguns last summer. Wonder what that motivation is?

Probably something to do with the types of bears there. Though you'd think Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming would have them also then.
 
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Walmart is a notoriously greedy company. I'm sure there are alot of politically motivated people that work there and want to stop selling them, but $$ comes first.

I've also noticed that ARs have been coming down in price a little lately. Not the huge clearance some have suggested, but still enough to notice.
 
I've also noticed that ARs have been coming down in price a little lately. Not the huge clearance some have suggested, but still enough to notice

I was hoping for the huge clearance prices. I was all set last night to buy at least 3 Colt AR15s at $600 each!

Overall prices have come way down and back to what they were ten years ago. $8-$900 AR rifles are the norm in my area, even at gun show prices.

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I can understand the Walmart business reasons for dropping ARs.

However, why tell the media about that decision? Walmart sure seems to be looking for some favor from people that don't like "military styled"* guns.

*term used by local news
 
The I don't buy that it's not because of political pressure, Bloomberg got them. Plain and simple.

The Forbes article sayid "Walmart will sell off its remaining inventory of assault rifles and other guns with a magazine capacity of seven or more rounds" thats a Bloomberg number all day. They'll never convince me its not political, they just know that a huge portion of their business comes from pro-gun people and they don't to make them angry.

The top ten spenders at Walmart are Oklahoma, South Dakota, Arkansas, Alabama, Kansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Missouri, North Dakota, Tennessee all pro-gun states full of pro-gun people. They know exactly what their doing, they're making Bloomberg happy, making the church that had the lawsuit against them happy, making anti gun lawmakers happy, and lying about it so they don't get pushback from their pro-gun customers, at least they know who they don't want to make angry.


That said, I don't really care. I've never bought a gun from them anyway, likely never would have. The only thing gun related I buy from them is gun oil and 22lr, not that they have had any on the shelf in 4-5 years.
 
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WalMart in AK were still full of handguns last summer. Wonder what that motivation is?


Probably something to do with the types of bears there. Though you'd think Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming would have them also then.
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I'd say it's more about money, Fred Meyer is a far superior store and they have a full line of firearms. I was surprised to see handguns at the WalMart since they have been off the shelves for years in the lower 48 after some domestic murder of an employee or something of the sort. I remember it being a knee jerk reaction when it happened, seemed like overnight the handguns were gone and I thought it was company policy until I was in Anchorage.
I bet the AR's stay in AK.
 
Seems Oldman was right.

"Ammo has a shelf life that is longer than most of our lifetimes." Ordnance MOS, Ammo Handler. No, it does NOT have a shelf life of decades. Not even. There are plenty of posts of defective ammo lots being sold off less than 30 years of age - that constituted the bulk of the surplus. It was determined by the number of bad rounds during training use it was too far gone to trust. It's sold off because it's unreliable. Plenty of posts of even older ammo resurrected from some off shore bunker being sold with dates stretching back into the '40's - along with the number of rounds per hundred you could expect squibs and misfires.

As for Walmart - GOOD! Getting out of the MSR market means their corporate buyers won't muddle things up with cheap consumer rifles outfitted in ancient stocks and regressive parts. The AR market is far from static and forcing 5,000 more of the same old thing into it with bulk orders only drags it down.

If you aren't current - AR Pistols and SBR's are getting the most traction right now. Not Fudd M4geries.

Glad to see the one retail chain guaranteed to make something a boring commodity getting out of it. All they proved was they were in it for the money, not as a supporter of rights one way or the other.

Just the same as tires, electronics, or Salsa Verde chips - if they don't see a continuing stream of profits, it gets tossed. And maybe later, it comes back. As the AR market recovers and continues to advance, we'll see.

Walmart wasn't going to increase their pay at one time and topped everyone out. They came to a new decision and guess what, pay increases. Things change.

I'm hoping they hold off for awhile. Maybe selling G Shocks will make up the difference.
 
I'm just hoping that this decision doesn't become a trend for Walmart and they end up halting ammunition sales.
 
Seems Oldman was right.

"Ammo has a shelf life that is longer than most of our lifetimes." Ordnance MOS, Ammo Handler. No, it does NOT have a shelf life of decades. Not even. There are plenty of posts of defective ammo lots being sold off less than 30 years of age - that constituted the bulk of the surplus. It was determined by the number of bad rounds during training use it was too far gone to trust. It's sold off because it's unreliable. Plenty of posts of even older ammo resurrected from some off shore bunker being sold with dates stretching back into the '40's - along with the number of rounds per hundred you could expect squibs and misfires.

As for Walmart - GOOD! Getting out of the MSR market means their corporate buyers won't muddle things up with cheap consumer rifles outfitted in ancient stocks and regressive parts. The AR market is far from static and forcing 5,000 more of the same old thing into it with bulk orders only drags it down.

If you aren't current - AR Pistols and SBR's are getting the most traction right now. Not Fudd M4geries.

Glad to see the one retail chain guaranteed to make something a boring commodity getting out of it. All they proved was they were in it for the money, not as a supporter of rights one way or the other.

Just the same as tires, electronics, or Salsa Verde chips - if they don't see a continuing stream of profits, it gets tossed. And maybe later, it comes back. As the AR market recovers and continues to advance, we'll see.

Walmart wasn't going to increase their pay at one time and topped everyone out. They came to a new decision and guess what, pay increases. Things change.

I'm hoping they hold off for awhile. Maybe selling G Shocks will make up the difference.
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