What considered all around good AK47

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I'm looking for AK47, but not sure what it's about. They range from $480 to $1200

What is the difference? Looking for _reliable_ piece with black plastic. I'm not going to be target shoot with it.

What is the differences? stamped vs milled? etc?
 
Stamped is a bit lighter weight. Milled could last longer, but they all should outlive most of us.
MAK-90 is a very reliable, high quality, stamped (usually) receiver AK type rifle, and considered to be above average quality. Quite accurate, always reliable. They seem to be running in the $650 range now.
If you can only find one in wood, let me know. I have an extra set of black polymer stock and handguard, I'll ship it to you for cheap.

You should be able to get a great AK in black polymer for under $700.
 
Higher price gets you better fit and finish, and better furniture. Milled is more expensive than stamped, and to some it looks nicer, but stamped works just as well and is lighter.

I had an inexpensive SAR-1 (Romanian AK) for years and liked it, but the finish was rather "industrial" with plenty of rough edges. From a reliability standpoint, though, mine was perfect; I shot perhaps a few thousand rounds through mine, using milsurp steel magazines, and it never had a single failure of any kind. A more expensive AK will have a smoother finish, and may be somewhat more accurate due to a higher quality barrel. Some of the nicest ones come with MIL-STD-1913 rails on the receiver for mounting optics; in my experience, adding an optic is the single best thing you can do to make an AK more accurate and more fun to shoot.

Another question is caliber. Civilian AK-47 lookalikes of course shoot the 7.62x39mm cartridge, but there are also the 5.45x39mm rifles (AK-74 derivatives) and even some in .223 Remington/5.56x45mm NATO. Mine was 7.62x39mm, but if I were going to get another, I might go 5.45x39mm if I found one in my price range, as they are lighter and arguably a little better suited for HD. .223 AK's have a wider selection of good ammo, but are reportedly a little less reliable than the 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 guns.

Also, there is the choice of muzzle device. "Authentic" looking AK-47 derivatives often have a slant brake on the muzzle, but these are bad for accuracy; I'd much rather have an A2 style flash suppressor, or even a bare muzzle (mine was a 2002 import so it had a bare muzzle). AK-74 style brakes don't hurt accuracy but do make the rifle louder, so think through what you want. For me personally, I think my dream AK would be a nice 5.45x39mm built on a light 1mm stamped receiver with an Aimpoint, a light, and a Vortex or Blackout flash suppressor, but there are a lot of good choices, and I thoroughly enjoyed my $379 SAR-1 with a Kobra optic.
 
For the most part, paying more for an AK gets your better fit/finish and cool factor. They all generally perform *about* the same. My Romanian shoots just as good as my Vepr.

Right now, the best deal going imo is the Yugo Pap rifles, around the $500ish area.
 
I bought an IO Inc AK 47, and love it to pieces. I've modded it up (new stock, new muzzle brake, improved the mag well so that it accepts all types of AK mags), and it is ugly as hell. Ugliest damn AK 47 out there. But, shoots like a dream. Absolutely the best shooting rifle I have in terms of reliability. Eats anything, and consistently ejects casings in a perfect rainbow arc in the same spot about 15 feet to my right.

If you were to read Internet experts, they'd tell you that IO Inc AKs are terrible or, at best, a mixed bag. I love mine. Will NEVER sell it.
 
You have a lot of good options at the $500 mark and several decent choices below $500. Check out the N-PAP (second generation). Lots of configurations available. CAI also has a 100% US made variant that is getting decent reviews, the C39

http://www.slickguns.com/ak-deals
 
If you want black polymer furniture, the N-PAP is limiting your selection.

I'd get a WASR. The new ones are better than ever, and they take standard AKM furniture.
 
Many people recommend Arsenal SLR-107. I like folding stock, etc. Are those rifles significantly better?
 
Many people recommend Arsenal SLR-107. I like folding stock, etc. Are those rifles significantly better?

They have better fit/finish, but they are very similar to a cheap AK in performance. AK's are NOT like other rifle types, money does not really buy performance in the AK design. The performance gap between the $400 AK's and the $1500 AK's in extremely thin, when compared to most any other weapon type. A (good) Wasr will function just as well as a Vepr/Russian AK.
 
Same advice I've always given new AK buyers:

"If you don't know the dfference between one AK and another, buy the cheapest one you can find, because it'll shoot exactly the same as the most expensive one you can find. If you can actually shoot the difference between the cheapest one you can find and the most expensive one you can find, you're not here asking questions about them".


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The N-Pap's have a threaded hole in the receiver for a stock bolt, much like a shotgun. If you want wood, you have to find an N-Pap specific stock, which is somewhat limited, but they exist. I still maintain that for people who want to play with furniture, the WASR is the way to go.

You could get THIS and then add any set of standard AKM furniture you want. The new WASR's are also coming with some sweet hard wood now too.

If you do think you want something "nicer", then absolutely the Arsenals are great. You don't have to be an aficionado to see/feel the fit/finish difference, despite the lack of a functional difference. But don't feel like you're getting a crappy rifle if you don't get one. What you get with the SLR-107 is Bulgarian build quality, and you get a very close representation of an AK-103. The folding stock doesn't hurt either, as far as general functionality goes. As you may imagine, the AK-103 specs are huge for collectors, so a lot of value comes from that alone. I think the value is there as much as I like AK's, but if you need a solid shooter, the WASR or N-PAP will do.
 
ordered wasr at $450, will see how it goes. N-PAP looks better, but I decided to get more "standard" gun.

I just wanted to have something for HD and range fun. Might mount optics and see what it can do at 100 yards.

I really like looks and folding stock on SLR-107 but decided not to spend money right now if it's going to shoot the same..
 
Ignore the reputation and check out the CAI Centurion 39 Sporter. Milled, all American made, straight. I have a new one, as well as an earlier "Polish" 1960, and both are well made, reliable and accurate. The newer Centurion is completely straight (gas block, rear and front sight all line up,something to check on any AK variant).

With an Aimpoint on an Ultimak rail mine shoots a little better than 2 MOA with Golden Bear soft-points. It's a 2 MOA dot, so this is as well as I can shoot it.

GB has several under $700. You can get them under $650 if you don't need a chrome-lined bore, which I do not.
 
Milled could last longer, but they all should outlive most of us.

Except for the fact that Russian testing determined the service life of stamped-receiver AKs to be longer than milled.
 
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