Dave McCracken
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Tempt me not,my friend. No more guns until next year.....
what happened to 16 and 28ga
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Tom Held
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crabs and beer
I say that all the time Dave and then another one comes along and says take me home but I'm having a good sense attack now and always sell one first. I don't go down there to buy, just look and so far I can still afford one cold beer. The L.C. Smith collectors always have a nice booth.
Tom
I say that all the time Dave and then another one comes along and says take me home but I'm having a good sense attack now and always sell one first. I don't go down there to buy, just look and so far I can still afford one cold beer. The L.C. Smith collectors always have a nice booth.
Tom
What about 11, 13, 14, 15, 17... what happened to all those gages... or does it get to a point where splitting hairs becomes unfeasible?
As a skeet and dove shooter, I came along with .410, 28, 20 and 12 ga including reloading. The 28 dropped off, then 410 and I've still got the 20 but only shoot the 12 for which I reload across a range of 1-1/8 oz down to 1/2oz (which is a .410 load that shoots quite comfortably from the 12ga.)
I'm content with a few 12ga guns for which I can customize a nice variety of loads without need a different gauge.
Why don't I sell the 20ga? Nostalgia, of course!
MCgunner
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Nah, not fit. My Winchester is perfect right out of the box. Didn't even require shimming. The Spartain was short and lacked drop. I added a recoil pad, not because of recoil, but to lengthen the stock which also helped drop a tad, but it's not QUITE perfect, works, though.
As to weight, the spartan is a 20 gauge coach gun, 20 inch barrels. It's pretty light and whippy, but I've gotten used to it.
Leaky Waders
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Bloody mary and crab omelet on the waterfront after a quick limit of ducks brings back fond Maryland memories.
28's are great for young shooters too. The hull feels like a shotgun hull, not pencil like ala the 410. The guns themselves seem kind of hard to find in the South and need to usually be special ordered. Factory target loads can be had by the box at Walmart or by the case at Sports Authority.
The cases seem to linger so I wait to purchase them on sale...I also reload.
16's can sometimes be found new, and due to their lack of popularity you can get them at reduced prices.
Here's a 16 g. BPS with a few cases purchased online the year before last...the pup was not included in the asking price
28's are great for young shooters too. The hull feels like a shotgun hull, not pencil like ala the 410. The guns themselves seem kind of hard to find in the South and need to usually be special ordered. Factory target loads can be had by the box at Walmart or by the case at Sports Authority.
The cases seem to linger so I wait to purchase them on sale...I also reload.
16's can sometimes be found new, and due to their lack of popularity you can get them at reduced prices.
Here's a 16 g. BPS with a few cases purchased online the year before last...the pup was not included in the asking price
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Leaky Waders
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Here's the pup a little older and my sons toting 28's. I've posted a pic like this before I think on this board. After I get home...we'll get some updated training/hunting pics.
Bill_Shelton
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The 28 Gauge is a great round....but why not just go the 20 Gauge which is more popular, and cheaper? Same with the 16 Gauge vs the 20 Gauge and the 12 Gauge.
It's just a matter of economics...that's all.
Bill
It's just a matter of economics...that's all.
Bill
Dave McCracken
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One cold beer is my limit,too, Tom. I may make it down to that shoot just to look. All my doubles(Both of them) have their barrels arranged vertically, so not eligible for the Vintagers.
Besides, my wardrobe is woefully short of tweed and tattersall.
Leaky, great pics. Thanks.
To more or less quote Chris Batha on the 28, "It's special to fold a dove at 30 yards using a shell the size of a Chapstick".
Besides, my wardrobe is woefully short of tweed and tattersall.
Leaky, great pics. Thanks.
To more or less quote Chris Batha on the 28, "It's special to fold a dove at 30 yards using a shell the size of a Chapstick".
JohnBT
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"but why not just go the 20 Gauge which is more popular, and cheaper?"
Because the 20 throws mediocre patterns? Seriously, sometimes money just doesn't matter. I can remember a time years ago when I didn't have enough and every penny mattered.
Meanwhile, I still want to know why some of these shells have the lettering facing the other way. Was every box mixed or was this one put together with shells from different years?
The horn belonged to my grandfather.
Because the 20 throws mediocre patterns? Seriously, sometimes money just doesn't matter. I can remember a time years ago when I didn't have enough and every penny mattered.
Meanwhile, I still want to know why some of these shells have the lettering facing the other way. Was every box mixed or was this one put together with shells from different years?
The horn belonged to my grandfather.
klutchless
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Lettering being backwards might have been due to the shell facing the wrong way when it rolled under the ink screen on the assembly line. When those shells were made alot was done by hand not by the precision computerized machines that give us cracked cases and sideways primers of today.
Mike1234567
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I fail to understand why "gauge" has anything to do with "pattern" other than having more or fewer projectiles plus barrel length plus type of choke plus the "technology" of a given shell.
JohnBT
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http://books.google.com/books?id=Rt...m=9&sqi=2&ved=0CGAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false
The square load principle or balanced loads. It's about getting most of the pellets to the target at nearly the same time and not in a 12-foot-long string. That long string looks good on paper, but on a crossing shot can be thin.
www.billhanusbirdguns.com/archive29.html
Of course, not everybody agrees with the testing that's been done or if it matters much.
The square load principle or balanced loads. It's about getting most of the pellets to the target at nearly the same time and not in a 12-foot-long string. That long string looks good on paper, but on a crossing shot can be thin.
www.billhanusbirdguns.com/archive29.html
Of course, not everybody agrees with the testing that's been done or if it matters much.
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