40 S&W ammo was available when other calibers were not during the ammo crisis of 2020/2021. That's a pretty good reason to have a 40 caliber pistol on hand.
I can't quite read the model number - what pistol is this? Good looking, for sure.
You should give one of these conversions-About 15-18 years ago the local sheriffs department had MP5's chambered in 40 S&W. They used the local conservation area shooting range and I was normally able to pick up all of their brass. Needless to say I have plenty of 40 brass to last me quite a while.
But as others have stated. Everyone jumped on the 40 S&W band wagon when the FBI started using it. And when the FBI went back to 9mm then a lot of police department and civilians went back to 9mm also.
I personally like 40 S&W. Yes it definitely has a different recoil impulse compared to 9mm in the same sized pistols but the recoil is still not bad. I even bust out the Hi Point 4095 Carbine in 40 S&W now and then just for giggles. That thing is very accurate for being so cheap ($179 when I bought it)
Additionally, an FBI shootout down near San Antonio resulted in two dead agents, because their anemic 9mm pistols wouldn't penetrate the windshield. This is Texas, we found those boys and killed em back, but that didn't help those agents. RIP fellas.
Maybe he was loosely referencing Miami/Dade from memory and got the details a bit (a lot) cocked up?
I see it this way. From the FBI experience with the 9mm decades ago, a larger semi-automatic cartridge was in demand. So, here came the 10mm. Now, a 10mm is powerful enough for hunting. It's like a .357magnum or 44 magnum in a semi-automatic. Or, it's like a short sword to a dagger (the 9mm) expanding on my previous post. But Law Enforcement couldn't handle it and adopted the 40cal. That's like shortening a short sword and having a long knife shaped like a sword. Okay, It might be more effective than what was originally replaced but not by much. And so, the 40's effectiveness relative to the 9mm is mute, especially with these new bullets that expand very well.
10mm is comparable to the .357Mag. It is not remotely comparable to the .44Mag.I see it this way. From the FBI experience with the 9mm decades ago, a larger semi-automatic cartridge was in demand. So, here came the 10mm. Now, a 10mm is powerful enough for hunting. It's like a .357magnum or 44 magnum in a semi-automatic.
The FBI never issued full power 10mm. As far as I know, no other LE department ever did either. The FBI found a lighter load that met their requirements and issued that loading when they started changing over to 10mm.But Law Enforcement couldn't handle it and adopted the 40cal.
The 10mm was around before the FBI went looking for something other than 9mm. It was not designed in response to FBI requirements.The FBI never issued full power 10mm. As far as I know, no other LE department ever did either. The FBI found a lighter load that met their requirements and issued that loading when they started changing over to 10mm.
S&W realized they could stuff those ballistics into a smaller cartridge and did. The FBI kept issuing 10mm for awhile after that--I believe California Highway Patrol was the first LE agency to adopt the .40S&W.
I don't think it's all that much about bullet tech. It's about the 40 having a higher ceiling. It can shoot heavier, wider bullets at the same or higher velocity....
Well, it looks like Federal applied their "modern" bullet tech to 40 too.
Yes, but the bullet technology still helps the 40 s&w perform better the same way it helps the 9mm perform better is what he's saying. Being heavier, wider and sometimes faster has always remained true.I don't think it's all that much about bullet tech. It's about the 40 having a higher ceiling. It can shoot heavier, wider bullets at the same or higher velocity.
Many of the better designed 40s have a smidge more weight in the slide, I've shot a FN FNS 40 and 9mm side by side with SD ammo and there just isn't that much difference.I don't have the experience or the interest to do this but would a muzzle break on a 40 reduce muzzle flip enough so it would be a 40 yet have less recoil and be more like a 9mm? I'm curious
. This is right. Pistols designed for 40 Are much more pleasant to shoot than 9 mm pistols that they just shoehorned the larger round into. A low bore axis doesn’t hurt either.Many of the better designed 40s have a smidge more weight in the slide, I've shot a FN FNS 40 and 9mm side by side with SD ammo and there just isn't that much difference.
In 10mm and 357 Sig - yes, there is a noticable advantage IMO. In common service calibers like 9mm, 40, 45, it would hardly make a difference, or not enough to notice a difference.I don't have the experience or the interest to do this but would a muzzle break on a 40 reduce muzzle flip enough so it would be a 40 yet have less recoil and be more like a 9mm? I'm curious
So at the risk of sounding ignorant here, isn't the new G22 Gen 5 a bit beefier meaning more purpose built for .40 S&W and does not work in almost all G17/G22 holsters now?. This is right. Pistols designed for 40 Are much more pleasant to shoot than 9 mm pistols that they just shoehorned the larger round into. A low bore axis doesn’t hurt either.