Steven_Seagull
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Anyone ever make a bolt action on .30 Carbine?
What shoots 30 Carbine besides an M1 Carbine
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I want to say I paid $800 for mine on Gunbroker. Can't remember if that included shipping or what. Came with 1 mag. There is a company called Triple K that will make spare mags for $58. Meanwhile "new" Automag III mags are going for $240-$350 on ebay!
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I didn't buy it lol
This one was $3200I want to say I paid $800 for mine on Gunbroker. Can't remember if that included shipping or what. Came with 1 mag. There is a company called Triple K that will make spare mags for $58. Meanwhile "new" Automag III mags are going for $240-$350 on ebay!
I didn't buy it lol
While I've zero experience with any handgun chambered for the .30 Cabine, I've had a half dozen carbines pass through my or my family's hands over the past 5 decades. My first was a DCM that I paid the princely sum of $13.25 for, IIRC, back in the mid-60s's. My dad kept it for me while I was out in Colorado in school till '68, and by then I was off to Texas for pilot training and got some fun shooting with it vs the local jack rabbit population. Since then I've had an Inland bought from a local, here in KY...again $400 if memory serves, and a trio of CMP's that were Inland and Standard models, and all were good shooters...~2.5-3" at 100 yds off a rest with my handloads.
I've always liked the military models, & saw a bunch of them in the hands of Vietnamese Rangers while on my first tour over in that Godforsaken country. They worked well enough with GI ammunition and their small size, quick handling and light weight were well suited to those tuff little guys up in the rolling jungle terrain of lll Corp, near Loc Ninh and Song Be. Finishing up my tour, I made an attempt to send one home with my hold baggage but was unsuccessful due to the misguided efforts of an overzealous squadron 3-stripe clerk.
Nowadays, I still find a pair of GI models useful for transitioning .22 cal. new shooters to a center fire noise and recoil, as well as the more demanding manual of arms necessary with a semi-auto rifle. Too, with the ammo cans of GI 110 gr FMJ's I bought decades ago, the round's still inexpensive for a whole afternoon's plinking. As to killing power, I'd not want to be on the receiving end, and while the M1 Carbine is legal (but a bit under powered IMHO) for deer here in the blue grass, it has killed a few woodchucks for me out to a hundred yards or so and remains, a hoot to shoot. YMMv, Rod
I've always liked the military models, & saw a bunch of them in the hands of Vietnamese Rangers while on my first tour over in that Godforsaken country. They worked well enough with GI ammunition and their small size, quick handling and light weight were well suited to those tuff little guys up in the rolling jungle terrain of lll Corp, near Loc Ninh and Song Be. Finishing up my tour, I made an attempt to send one home with my hold baggage but was unsuccessful due to the misguided efforts of an overzealous squadron 3-stripe clerk.
Nowadays, I still find a pair of GI models useful for transitioning .22 cal. new shooters to a center fire noise and recoil, as well as the more demanding manual of arms necessary with a semi-auto rifle. Too, with the ammo cans of GI 110 gr FMJ's I bought decades ago, the round's still inexpensive for a whole afternoon's plinking. As to killing power, I'd not want to be on the receiving end, and while the M1 Carbine is legal (but a bit under powered IMHO) for deer here in the blue grass, it has killed a few woodchucks for me out to a hundred yards or so and remains, a hoot to shoot. YMMv, Rod
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Vern Humphrey
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If the M1 carbine had been chambered for a .223 round with 3,000 to 3,300 fps muzzle velocity, we would have had something better than the M16, and had it 20 years earlier.
GooseGestapo
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Yep! And it’s called a Mini-14….
NIGHTLORD40K
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My .30 Blackhawk was a fun toy, but only that. Slow and somewhat annoying to load (as the charge holes don't line up with the loading gate), and stupendously loud, though recoil was fairly light.
I do love my Carbines, but they are mated the cartridge. Alter the chambering, and they become something else.
I do wonder if a straight (or delayed) blowback .30C could be made to work in something like the Sub2000. Better energy and flatter shooting than a .40cal, but less weight and parts than a gas gun. I suppose the 5.7 guns are pretty close these days.
The bolt would probably weigh a ton and have punishing recoil, but I can dream.
I do love my Carbines, but they are mated the cartridge. Alter the chambering, and they become something else.
I do wonder if a straight (or delayed) blowback .30C could be made to work in something like the Sub2000. Better energy and flatter shooting than a .40cal, but less weight and parts than a gas gun. I suppose the 5.7 guns are pretty close these days.
The bolt would probably weigh a ton and have punishing recoil, but I can dream.
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No argument from me. I’ve got both….......and it's still not better than an M16.
Enjoy both. But yes.
NIGHTLORD40K
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Same here, Ive got Minis, ARs, and Carbines. The Mini isn't best at anything, but does everything well enough. The best thing about a Carbine is most indoor pistol ranges will let you shoot it once you show them the cartridge it fires- I say this because a disturbing number of range employees nowadays have never seen a .30 Carbine round.
Doug444
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I have a 62 Levermatic in .30 Carbine. Fun gun, but extra mags (only holds 4) are unobtainium. Shocked the last time I looked on GB as a value check. 
Best investment I've EVER made. My Blackhawk is also fun, and you're right, LOUD!!!It's not that hard to load, but then I have a carbide die 
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Best investment I've EVER made. My Blackhawk is also fun, and you're right, LOUD!!!It's not that hard to load, but then I have a carbide die .
Dave DeLaurant
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It was. Melvyn Johnson came up with a simple conversion called the 5.7 Spitfire, aka 22 Spitfire, 5.7 MMJ. He had military conversions in mind but nobody bit and then he offered it commercially for a number of years. Think of it conceptually as the .300 Blackout idea in reverse.
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.22 Spitfire - Wikipedia
I know the OP didn't ask for it, but the .357 or .44 Magnums have similar velocity and power at rifle barrel lengths, for what it's worth.
1948CJ2A
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Wasn't the Pederson device for the 1903 Springfields made to convert a standard issue bolt action rifle to a semi-auto platform firing the M1 Carbine round? One of my 03 Springfields has the cut-out on the left side of the receiver.
Well upon further reading I think it was for a different 30 cal pistol round... so disregard I reckon.
en.wikipedia.org
Well upon further reading I think it was for a different 30 cal pistol round... so disregard I reckon.
Pedersen device - Wikipedia
Destructo6
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That Taurus CT30 looks like something I need. I don't know why, but I need it.
Did we mention the anemic properties of said 30 Carbine?
From a reloading point of view, it is the only cartridge I have seen that needs carbide dies AND case lube... Had the Marlin lever and while it was fun to shoot, someone else liked it more and the profit from selling was more fun than the shooting. Only thing I have yet related to 30 Carbine is a Crossman M1 carbine BB gun...
Of course, I have already checked gunbroker. None listed.
Dave DeLaurant
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I found this piece on TFB about the carbine.
It's not clear whether the CT30 was sold to the public at any point during or after their very short official service life, but the article indicates that the entire batch of 1100 surviving carbines all went back to Taurus after Brazil's LEOs lost interest.
Taurus CT30 carbine: the last joint venture with FAMAE -
Following the collaborative program with Chile’s FAMAE – Fábricas y Maestranzas del Ejército covering the manufacture and sales of the MT40/MT9 submachine guns and the CT40 carbine in Brazil, Forjas Taurus was still to try an additional – and final – venture with that State-owned company. The...
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berettaprofessor
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Thanks everyone! Going to watch for a Marlin 62 on Gunbroker!
dbmjr1
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I've got a Blackhawk in .30 Carbine. It's a tack driver.
Yes, It's loud. It will get attention at an indoor range.
Yes, It's loud. It will get attention at an indoor range.
NIGHTLORD40K
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Supposedly they had so many QC problems that Taurus had to buy them back from the Brazilian cops.
I had the (now almost forgotten) CT9 and it was a nice gun, though heavier than most ARs and you had to fab your own spare magazines as none were ever imported.
A Contender carbine barrel in 30 Carbine might be fun if you are into Contenders.
I have a couple Bullberry Comtender barrels that perform well. I’m not sure if they offer a 30 Carbine barrel but if they do, it should be a good shooter.
I have a couple Bullberry Comtender barrels that perform well. I’m not sure if they offer a 30 Carbine barrel but if they do, it should be a good shooter.
