What squad car gun if you could choose?

[Extremely Pro Gun]

A flat top 16" AR with a 1.5-4 leupold on it. Magpul backup sights. <<< Perfection

 

[shadowalker]

LMT MRP AR in 6.8 SPC with a 4 MOA Aimpoint.

Second choice would be any top tier AR-15 with a 4 MOA Aimpoint and 75 grain TAP or 62 grain bonded ammunition.

I'd also want a shotgun but if I had to choose would pick the patrol rifle.

 

[RippinSVT]

Well, an LEO probably isn't going to be taking shots at people from a long distance during normal instances, and if they were in a position such as that, they'd be prepared ahead of time (such and a house raid on a known killer, etc) or they'd call in a special force like SWAT. That being said, I think I'd have a good 12ga with 18" bbl, and maybe a Beretta carbine to match my duty-weapon's caliber. Now, if I truly had a need for a full rifle caliber, I think I'd go with an M14/M1A or a PTR91/G3.

 

[Dambugg]

That would have probably included the lowly lever action. Someone here has a sig line that says something about accuracy being final. I think that is true as is the notion that you can't supplant skill with equipment or capacity.
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Competely agree. The old 30wcf would've served quick justice to those two yayhoos. Sure they had some armor, but if you landed 2 or 3 shots center mass it would at least incopacitate them enough to minimize their threat.

 

[RippinSVT]

I think I too would like to tote around my lever-gun, and hell, even a single-action sixgun because those are what I shoot well. That being said, if I felt I NEEDED a rifle, much like I would NEED a handgun, I would choose something that I could reload quickly on the go, which is neither.

 

[Robert]

In my car I had my S&W4006, an 870, and in the truck was a M14 and a M16.

 

[CoRoMo]

... and a Serbu shorty strapped to my ankle.

 

[hacksaw]

suprised nobody said this yet...

"Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.."

 

[MachIVshooter]

My PLR-16, which incidentally accompanies me in my civilian vehicle. It's got near-rifle capability, but is compact enough to be easily deployed from the confines of a vehicle.

 

[Erik M]

Only a few posters have mentioned shotguns, I believe a Saiga in 20 or 12 gauge would be a middle of the road choice. Enviroment would play a big part in my decision. For example a semi-auto shotgun would do well in an urban confined area, I would prefer some type of sbr if I were in a rural area.

 

[kd7nqb]

For me I like the idea of a shotgun and I would prefer a 12gauge pump so you can feed anything from flash rounds to shot to slugs and not worry about cycling issues. Also I like the AR platform but I would get away from the .223 and go to .308 instead.

 

[bwsmith2850]

leave the centerfire rifles and 100 yard shots to the SWAT guys
that is what the radio is for
(same for ARs, AKs, M-16s, M-14s, UZIs, "machine guns", and grenade launchers)

I was awfully happy to have a Colt AR-15 .233 between the seats when I needed it. Now that it has an EOTECH and light I think I went to rifle heaven. I'm not ready to toss the 870 next to it and agitated for the Glock for years so I'm pretty happy with the setup I have now. They should solve most problems that can't wait for ERU to get there. In an hour or two.

They say we need diversity, don't they?

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Probably a 10.5" or 11.5" AR/M16 with a suppressor, light, and EO Tech. Compact for maneuvering indoors if needed, accurate and powerful enough for things and distances (I imagine) a LEO would likely face, won't deafen you if you need to hear your radio/backup officers.
I don't think a shotgun is a bad choice though. That big bore has lots of street cred to maybe change some minds about resisting vs. a .22 hole, and chances of facing a recreation of the n. hollywood shootout with BGs wearing full armor and rifles are awfully rare. Although since I wouldn't elimiate that possiblity entirely, I'd prefer a rifle.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

An M4. I will not use my issue shotgun unless ordered to. I just do not like shotguns, and have literally hundreds more hours of training on the M4 system than I do with shotguns. If I'm on patrol, and I need a long gun, the shotgun is staying locked up, period. I'm not afraid to admit I'm close to a blundering fool with a shotgun, but I will say that I am very proficient with the M4.

That big bore has lots of street cred to maybe change some minds about resisting vs. a .22 hole

There was a thread just a few days ago that had some graphic pics of exactly what that ".22 hole" can really do. Quite simply, an AR-15 will rip you apart.

 

[TexasBill]

If the department is paying, a FN SLP shotgun and a FN-SCAR-17. If I'm paying, a Remington 870 with an 18-inch barrel, Beretta CX4 carbine and PX4 pistol. Handy since I already have two out of three and six magazines I can use in either one. If I need a real rifle, I want something like a Remington 750 Carbine in .308 Winchester.

BTW: If the department is paying, I already have the FN pistol to go with the other FN firearms.

 

[oldfool]

I was awfully happy to have a Colt AR-15 .233 between the seats when I needed it. Now that it has an EOTECH and light I think I went to rifle heaven. I'm not ready to toss the 870 next to it and agitated for the Glock for years so I'm pretty happy with the setup I have now. They should solve most problems that can't wait for ERU to get there. In an hour or two.

They say we need diversity, don't they?

if you have to wait an hour or two for support, you are "SWAT", friend (whether labeled as such or not)... so pack as much heat as your vehicle can carry !

pretty much same applies if you are a "department" of one (or two, or three)
but most 'urban' police departments are not


PS
if OP really meant squad car in "Detroit", do consider trading in vehicle on an Abrams M1A2, and make sure the radio works for calling in air support

 

[Black Knight]

I prefer a 20" barrel rifle sight Remington 870P with magazine extension (24888). For a rifle, I would prefer an AR-15 and for a pistol caliber carbine I would choose a Beretta CX4 Storm. To be quite honest based on my first time experience with an HK MP5 on the range at FLETC if one were available I would not pass it up.

 

[Redneck with a 40]

An 18" 12 gauge 870 and an M-4 should be able to take care of just about any contingency, even a Mini-14 would serve well.

 

[stuckinsocal]

For rifles I'd take about any rifle caliber carbine I'm proficient with. An Ar-15 would definitely be a good choice as would the Mini 14, but I'd rather have either an Ar-10, PTR91, or M1A Scout or Socom....just personal preferance for the .308.

Shotgun: Without a doubt the Remington 870. Other alterntives would be the Saiga 12, or other popular semi-auto shotguns such as Benelli, FN, etc.

 

[LRS_Ranger]

I would take a Benelli with #4 buck and an AR with an EOTECH and a flip down magnifier. I don't know much about the new 6.8 but it looks promising...

 

[Rexster]

Other than the duty pistol, which in my case is a P229, I want a duplicate of the duty pistol, and I do bring along a second P229. I work for an agency that requires us to buy our own weapons, and am grateful that the P229 is on the "approved" list for primary duty pistols.

A pump gun is a useful tool, period. No matter how many rifles I might have available, sometimes a shotgun is perfect. I have a Remington 870P. I am considering a designated slug gun, to carry in place of a carbine/rifle, which will mean two shotguns in the car.

I would LIKE to be able to carry my Mini-14 Ranch Rifle, which has a SCAR stock, but until I can take a cert class, I am limited to an AR15, which I have already been certified to carry. An AR15 will just have to do for now, but I prefer the handling qualities of the Mini. In practice, because I can carry the shotgun up front, and must keep the carbines in the trunk, the shotgun is the long gun of choice. Better a shotgun right now than the carbine ten thousand miles away in its case, in the trunk. I work straight nights, anyway, and all of my sticky situations have happened well within handgun/shotgun range. This is why the aforementioned designated slug gun is under consideration

The long weapon I wish for would be a bolt-action rifle with an optic. Preferable two optics, a compact conventional scope and a small red-dot for backup. I would like it to be chambered for .308 Winchester, or similar, with a 20" barrel. There are several candidates on the market. I have not purchased such a rifle because I work for an agency that only allows certain SWAT guys this blessing. I have looked into such a weapon for personal use.

With total freedom of choice in weapons, I would also like to have an FAL Para Carbine, too. It is not often I would want to sling much .308 lead, but ya never know.

My work environment is a big city, with large buildings, shopping centers, banks, and such, but many of the neighborhoods in my district are laid out like suburbia. Some of the houses are older, with cedar shake siding.

 

[stuckinsocal]

Rexster, you're one of the only LEOs I've seen who prefers the Mini over the Ar. Personally, I like it better than the Ar because of the action system and the stock design. It's just easier and more comfortable for me to shoot. I do like the Ar, but the Mini just feels better to me.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

That big bore has lots of street cred to maybe change some minds about resisting vs. a .22 hole

There was a thread just a few days ago that had some graphic pics of exactly what that ".22 hole" can really do. Quite simply, an AR-15 will rip you apart.

Agreed. What I meant was from a story I read about interviews of felons in prison they have a fear of the shotgun (and some exaggerated ideas of what it can do to a human, i.e. "blow you in half") so holding someone at gunpoint before shots are fired you may get the perp to think twice about resisting vs. complying staring at a .730" bore rather than a .224" bore. The .223/5.56 can be devastating but I don't know that most BGs have the same knowledge of permanent cavaties/tumbling/fragmentation we do.

 

[Autolycus]

I really think it would depend on what kind of environemnt they are operating in. I imagine in a city or suburban environment it would be a bad idea to take something like a .308 instead of a .223. I would recommend a pistol caliber weapon or carbine as well. Perhaps even an MP5 type of weapon. I would also recommend a shotgun as well. But in a rural area I would suggest that a larger caliber be used.

It would also be very dependent upon the situations the officer most likely encountered in my opinion. And what kind of call they are going to.

 

[Snowdog]

An M1 Carbine would suffice for me. An equally short carbine, such as an M4 would work just dandy as well. I believe both would defeat automotive metal and glass sufficiently.