OilyPablo
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Is that gold paint or?
Maybe focusing on HOW it was made could give some (age) clues. How were the threads cut?
Maybe focusing on HOW it was made could give some (age) clues. How were the threads cut?
What the devil is this thing?
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I also considered and discarded that it might be a firearm. The bar trigger is arranged in a manner that would make the OP's device only good for suicides.Hand held pistol would be my guess.
Something similar
18th century Indian axe pistol,
Originating in 18th century India, this curious firearms serves both a flintlock pistol and an axe. Instead of a typical pistol butt it has a handle so that is can be wielded like an axe and an axe blade is attached to the barrel which can be used as a forward grip. Approximately .52 caliber.
rcmodel
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I don't think it is a powder tester,
Animal trap gun,
Rifle/ pistol combo,
Cannon fuse measurer/touch hole lighter,
Howdah bang-stick with a built-in tiger measuring ruler,
Stick it down a cobra hole to the goofy measurement mark and let it shoot hisself when he strikes.
Or anything else that makes any sense to me?
I simply have never seen anything like it in over 50 years of studying firearms evolution over the last 1,000 years.
I sure hope the OP sends the photo's to the two museums I linked earlier!
It's killing me wanting to get a definitive answer on what it is.
Somebody in one of the two museums will surely know the answer.
I don't get totally, completely stumped on firearms questions very often.
But this thing has me totally mystified!
rc
Animal trap gun,
Rifle/ pistol combo,
Cannon fuse measurer/touch hole lighter,
Howdah bang-stick with a built-in tiger measuring ruler,
Stick it down a cobra hole to the goofy measurement mark and let it shoot hisself when he strikes.
Or anything else that makes any sense to me?
I simply have never seen anything like it in over 50 years of studying firearms evolution over the last 1,000 years.
I sure hope the OP sends the photo's to the two museums I linked earlier!
It's killing me wanting to get a definitive answer on what it is.
Somebody in one of the two museums will surely know the answer.
I don't get totally, completely stumped on firearms questions very often.
But this thing has me totally mystified!
rc
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JRH6856
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I'm with you on that rc, Maybe it's just a bunch of parts out of a parts bin that someone played mix and match with. i used to do that as a kid and came up with some pretty odd contraptions. 
Bobson
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There'd be no reason to put numbers on it then.
OK, a thought. Maybe the markings have nothing to do with the gun. They could be some sort of measuring tool for, say, builders or surveyors, but for some reason those folks faced danger so a gun was incorporated into the tool they used for other purposes. It would not be the first time a gun was made part of something that was going to be carried anyhow; remember cane guns, the jailor's key pistol, and the famous "glove gun".
Jim
Jim
rcmodel
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Yea, but!
The trigger lever placement almost at the muzzle defies all logic.
The shooter would be placing himself in more danger then the target.
From both the lock, and the barrel.
rc
The trigger lever placement almost at the muzzle defies all logic.
The shooter would be placing himself in more danger then the target.
From both the lock, and the barrel.
rc
JRH6856
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With that trigger it looks like it is designed to reach out and tap something to trip the trigger. And if the missing piece at the other end is a handle, that would make even more sense...sort of.
Field Tester
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Lol, sounds like you'll use whatever that thing is on him if he doesn't come through
I'm in the same boat. I've spent the past day looking up Muhgal weapons and I've come up with nothing.
CapnMac
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My first though, just from the lock work & short "barrel" was a fire-starter.
Given that the numbers are scaled in hindi, and have odd repeat patterns, a thought then occurs that this is a tool for building a bier or pyre, since that is a common burial custom in that part of the world.
If so, the measures are to set the size of the fascines or timbers, which are then complemented by a way to start the blaze.
The trigger bar could be tapped upon the ground or base of the pyre to set it off, with the threaded handle a stand off from the blaze. Would make even more sense if it were a set trigger, that kept compressed would 'fire' on release (which could explain the angle used--or not).
That's my 2¢ at least
Given that the numbers are scaled in hindi, and have odd repeat patterns, a thought then occurs that this is a tool for building a bier or pyre, since that is a common burial custom in that part of the world.
If so, the measures are to set the size of the fascines or timbers, which are then complemented by a way to start the blaze.
The trigger bar could be tapped upon the ground or base of the pyre to set it off, with the threaded handle a stand off from the blaze. Would make even more sense if it were a set trigger, that kept compressed would 'fire' on release (which could explain the angle used--or not).
That's my 2¢ at least
Bobson
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after pooring over ton's of photos, I think it's an early Ramset, or Hilti gun, incorperated with a grade stick. Place the muzzel with fastener on rock ground and tap trigger bar with toe to drive fastener.
I have no Idea and it's driving me crazy. The way the muzzle points out the opposite direction of the numbered scale makes me think it's a two in one of something.:banghead:
I have no Idea and it's driving me crazy. The way the muzzle points out the opposite direction of the numbered scale makes me think it's a two in one of something.:banghead:
The Bushmaster
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And the ring of small holes around the other end...What's that about??
jerkface11
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And why does that end have nothing but 3's on it? And why do the male threaded ends have nipples?
OilyPablo
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The odd nipples are so it can only be assembled one way.
JRH6856
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I don't think those are all 3's. I looks more like 31, 32, 33, to me.
rcmodel
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ApacheCoTodd has been MIA for two days now.
Hope that isn't some kind of Indian VooDoo stick with a curse on it or something!
rc
Hope that isn't some kind of Indian VooDoo stick with a curse on it or something!
rc
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Maybe it was a defense weapon used by the Lost Colony of Roanoke?ApacheCoTodd has been MIA for two days now.
Hope that isn't some kind of Indian VooDoo stick with a curse on it or something!
rc
Quick, someone check on ApacheCoTodd! Maybe he's left a clue on his computer about his current whereabouts. Check for any files named Croatoan.
jerkface11
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He probably goofed and summoned Kali or something.
rcmodel
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Three more guesses!
1. It is a sub-caliber training device for a bronze siege mortar.
2. It is a steam-punk Cattle Prod, used to herd recalcitrant water buffalo.
3. It is an early prototype for the Bangalore Torpedo.
BTW: Hope he didn't try to shoot it and blow himself up!!
rc
1. It is a sub-caliber training device for a bronze siege mortar.
2. It is a steam-punk Cattle Prod, used to herd recalcitrant water buffalo.
3. It is an early prototype for the Bangalore Torpedo.
BTW: Hope he didn't try to shoot it and blow himself up!!
rc
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OilyPablo
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That thought had occurred to me too!
anothernewb
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OMG Steampunk cattle prod. okay that one got me, made my day!
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