Cosmoline
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Other than a firearm, what would you want for home defense?
What Weapon For HD OTHER than a firearm?
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joab
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A good Chinese cook type meat cleaver. I bought one today maybe that's why it comes to mind
Cosmoline
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My vote is for a sharp bayonet. It's cheap, handy, can be concealed behind the arm or back, and is able to deliver a lethal stabbing blow quickly.
Puncha
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My wife sleeps with an 18" minature softball bat on the bedside table. On my side of the bed lies a surefire E2D and an emerson folding knife.
I used to have a CS spec forces shovel nearby but that has since been relegated to car boot duty as an emergency road obstacle clearing tool.
I used to have a CS spec forces shovel nearby but that has since been relegated to car boot duty as an emergency road obstacle clearing tool.
KaceCoyote
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Kukri!
Sunray
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Lock the friggin' doors, install motion activated lights and a dog. Any dog. If a criminal hears a dog bark, he'll go elsewhere.
fisherman66
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I rely on the powerful smell of Athlete's Foot. I put my wifes shoes near the entrance and dare any intruder to run the gauntlet. If that doesn't work I use my wife's powerful air fragrance potpouri. The mix of Athlete's foot and potpouri is like bleach and ammonia. A toxic cloud similar to clorine gas or mustard gas fills the air and nutralizes the threat.
I would second a vote for the shortened baseball/softball bats.
In fact, I keep two youth sized alloy baseball bats around. They are light, balanced, fast, and services me better than a steel ASP baton. I practice with these bats with some Kali/escrima sticks motions. SOmeone getting a bat in the hard points will not be moving much. Pain from blunt impact is pretty darned effective.
I always hear stories of how people keep charging even when shot. Apparently the noise, the adrenaline, the flash, the shock, and the time it takes for a bullet wound to affect a "recipient" in such unpredictable ways that I have come to not rely upon the magic of firearms.
I think blunt force trauma which stops breathing, or ability to move legs or hands will be very useful in close quarters like a house, office, or apartment.
Also, in your own house, you do not need a concealed permit to carry your bat.
In fact, I keep two youth sized alloy baseball bats around. They are light, balanced, fast, and services me better than a steel ASP baton. I practice with these bats with some Kali/escrima sticks motions. SOmeone getting a bat in the hard points will not be moving much. Pain from blunt impact is pretty darned effective.
I always hear stories of how people keep charging even when shot. Apparently the noise, the adrenaline, the flash, the shock, and the time it takes for a bullet wound to affect a "recipient" in such unpredictable ways that I have come to not rely upon the magic of firearms.
I think blunt force trauma which stops breathing, or ability to move legs or hands will be very useful in close quarters like a house, office, or apartment.
Also, in your own house, you do not need a concealed permit to carry your bat.
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I don't need one to carry a firearm in my house.
Cosmoline
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Yes, that's a large knife.
Smokey Joe
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Quibble, Joab!
Your excellent choice of a chinese chef's knife for HD is without parallel. With it you have an instant choice of blunt or sharp weapon, all while swinging it! But Joab, sir, with respect, permit me a small quibble please.
I feel constrained to point out that the Chinese chef's KNIFE is not a cleaver. Many are ruined each year by people who think it is a cleaver. A cleaver is for chopping bone and tendon tissue, in meat, while butchering carcasses. It is built correspondingly heavy and relatively blunt. Pick up a real cleaver, then a Chinese chef's knife--the difference will immediately be obvious.
A Chinese chef's knife, while superficially similar to a cleaver, is a much thinner, sharper blade, made for fine slicing and dicing of already-kitchen-ready foods. It is not for chopping bones nor tendons.
Funny experience, Chinese-chef's-knife related: Treated myself to a really nice one a few yrs back in a Chinese restaurant-supply store. They must have lectured me for five minutes solid on the proper use of the item. I already knew, so I just thought, "Well, this is different: the Occidental smiling wisely and nodding and agreeing while the Orientals ramble on and on." Anyhow, I promised to take good care of it, and so far, have succeeded.
Your excellent choice of a chinese chef's knife for HD is without parallel. With it you have an instant choice of blunt or sharp weapon, all while swinging it! But Joab, sir, with respect, permit me a small quibble please.
I feel constrained to point out that the Chinese chef's KNIFE is not a cleaver. Many are ruined each year by people who think it is a cleaver. A cleaver is for chopping bone and tendon tissue, in meat, while butchering carcasses. It is built correspondingly heavy and relatively blunt. Pick up a real cleaver, then a Chinese chef's knife--the difference will immediately be obvious.
A Chinese chef's knife, while superficially similar to a cleaver, is a much thinner, sharper blade, made for fine slicing and dicing of already-kitchen-ready foods. It is not for chopping bones nor tendons.
Funny experience, Chinese-chef's-knife related: Treated myself to a really nice one a few yrs back in a Chinese restaurant-supply store. They must have lectured me for five minutes solid on the proper use of the item. I already knew, so I just thought, "Well, this is different: the Occidental smiling wisely and nodding and agreeing while the Orientals ramble on and on." Anyhow, I promised to take good care of it, and so far, have succeeded.
joab
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You are correct
But saying Chinese chef knife may not convey the proper image.
A true cleaver ,I think, would be too heavy for it's size.
What I really want is a pig knife
But saying Chinese chef knife may not convey the proper image.
A true cleaver ,I think, would be too heavy for it's size.
What I really want is a pig knife
I would prefer a thrusting weapon like a short spear. IN a hallway or cramped quarters you can do much swinging and this allows you to be at least a couple feet from the BG. I always loved pugil stick fighting and bayonet training in the Army. "Long thrust and hold" will do the job. Also, it is tough to get a spear away from someone when all you have to grab is the sharp end.
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Cleaver, shmeaver!
Joab--I entirely agree with you about a cleaver being a poor choice for a weapon. (One of the many, many things I felt were wrong with "Gangs of New York") It is just too heavy to be easily maneuverable in a fight.
Any butcher worthy of the name could lay hands on half-a-dozen better weapons in an instant, all of which would be razor-sharp in the normal course of busines, and with all of which he'd be well practiced.
Joab--I entirely agree with you about a cleaver being a poor choice for a weapon. (One of the many, many things I felt were wrong with "Gangs of New York") It is just too heavy to be easily maneuverable in a fight.
Any butcher worthy of the name could lay hands on half-a-dozen better weapons in an instant, all of which would be razor-sharp in the normal course of busines, and with all of which he'd be well practiced.
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KriegHund
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Small sword.
Stab rather than slash- easier inside a small hallway, but more effective than a large knife.
Slashing is bad in confined spaces.
Stab rather than slash- easier inside a small hallway, but more effective than a large knife.
Slashing is bad in confined spaces.
texascarl
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Drywall Hatchet or Ballpeen hammer + a large knife. Inside a house ballbats, lathi, katanas and such can be tough to use. Walls and ceilings seem to jump out and grab 'em. Enclosed places aren't the claim to fame of stuff a meter long. Hammers, hatchets and long bladed knives on the other hand...just the ticket.
AStone
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other than the smell of my chaco sandals by the door (ha, nice one fisherman), if i HAD to make a choice, i think i'd opt for a fixed blade knife under the pillow. the one i've got my eye on for 'next knife' is a SOG seal pup elite. that should rip a pretty good hole.
some kind of club would be a second choice, but a fixed blade is more stealthy.
still, glad the k9 is sitting on the chair beside the bed.
some kind of club would be a second choice, but a fixed blade is more stealthy.
still, glad the k9 is sitting on the chair beside the bed.
english kanigit
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Hmmmmm, lets see....
Claymore? Illegal.
Pit Bull? We have a lab. Close, but not a pit...
Falchion? No Falchion.
Vultite Chicken? Uhhh, ***!?
Well, what does that leave?
The bayonet!
To be applied, with prejudice, at anytime.
Mix with equal amounts of screaming, naked, pissed off, white male and anger.
Night time makes for more terrorizing application for goblins.
Simply rinse and repeat as necessary.
Seriously, I've got that POS commie repro that my buddy Brian is modeling in the pic. I've got an original Swiss bayo for my k31 and the chink SKS has the built in cruciform bayonet. I'm set!
Claymore? Illegal.
Pit Bull? We have a lab. Close, but not a pit...
Falchion? No Falchion.
Vultite Chicken? Uhhh, ***!?
Well, what does that leave?
The bayonet!
To be applied, with prejudice, at anytime.
Mix with equal amounts of screaming, naked, pissed off, white male and anger.
Night time makes for more terrorizing application for goblins.
Simply rinse and repeat as necessary.
Seriously, I've got that POS commie repro that my buddy Brian is modeling in the pic. I've got an original Swiss bayo for my k31 and the chink SKS has the built in cruciform bayonet. I'm set!
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