Which 10/22?

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I'm thinking of picking up a 10/22. Primary purpose would be plinking and teaching my daughter to shoot, with some Steel Challenge a possibility. It is my intention to stick a red-dot of some sort on top. Over time it is possible that I might drop in upgrade parts, but don't plan/need a tricked-out gun from the outside.

There seem to be a huge profusion of models of 10/22 these days. What are this group's thoughts on what to get? Anything to particularly stay away from? Do the little slots in the side of the receiver work well for getting a red-dot to stay in place? Will any pic-rail mounting work?
 
Basic wood stock.

My recommendation is actually a Marlin 60 due to increased accuracy over stock Ruger, or a 795 if you were going to get a plastic stock 10/22. The difference in price has no impact on reliability or accuracy and the thousands of rounds of ammo you can buy with the saved money (or primary arms advanced red dot) makes marlin the steal here.
 
The wood stock would be cheapest priced and can be found on sale . New 10/22's come with packaged rail and screws , be careful not to strip threads aluminum receiver. I wouldnt pay attention to all the aftermarket hype
 
Whichever one she likes best if she's going to be using it much

I'm a fan of the sporter with wood stock and no barrel band, the take down model, or any stainless version.
 
I'd go with the Tactical. (Remove the forward stock ring and insure the barrel is free floating.)
 
I own a couple. . . but my Blued 10/22T (bull bbl) is my favorite. No chipmunk in 50 yards is safe. A golf ball on the 100 yard berm is great fun.
 
Have owned three of the old sporters (fingergroove).
Best looking and feeling 10/22 IMHO.
Currently fighting one to see if can shoot.

Have had two of the old walnut standards, three birch (one a mannlicher) and one DSP.

Sometimes the removal of the bbl band on a standard helps, just depends on how much forend pressure is there.
Doesn't take much angle diff in inlet to make for a lot of pressure.
Its a less than precise deal, back in the old days and IMHO, worse in the new.
Huge gap around receivers now.
Kept me from buying a killer wood DSP, just for the stock.

For a plinker and possibly speed stuff...........hammer swap and a TRS 25 reddot.
My ol lady's blued/grey lam standard is set up like that.
 
TCR-22 is light, threaded, has a rail for optic, comes w peep sight.
And is in Magpul lightweight stock.
Can get hardwood now I guess.
 
If there's no rear action screw, upward stock pressure on the barrel is necessary to stabilize the rear of the action, which should be glass-bedded, along with the action, near the front screw and provide further upward pressure on the barrel...to lever the rear end of the action down.
 
ATLDave said:
I'm thinking of picking up a 10/22. Primary purpose would be plinking and teaching my daughter to shoot, with some Steel Challenge a possibility. It is my intention to stick a red-dot of some sort on top. Over time it is possible that I might drop in upgrade parts, but don't plan/need a tricked-out gun from the outside.

There seem to be a huge profusion of models of 10/22 these days. What are this group's thoughts on what to get? Anything to particularly stay away from? Do the little slots in the side of the receiver work well for getting a red-dot to stay in place? Will any pic-rail mounting work?
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1. Suggest a Ruger RAR-Compact w/ TechSights aperture sights instead.

(This is actually the 18" Compact)




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2. Or, failing that, a 10/22 woody w/ the same sight and the LOP cut down.

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I would take her to a shop that has more than one type of 10/22 if you can find one and let her choose what she wants.

I think the plain old wood stock 18.5" carbine works well.

The two modifications I would make are a decent set of sights (such as Tech Sights) and some trigger-work (such as Brimstone Gunsmithing offers).

My thinking on the 10/22 changed a lot when I realized I could put better sights and a better trigger on one.

And, you can still put a Red-Dot on. But, for learning real rifle skills start her on iron sights.
 
For those suggesting iron sights:

I learned on iron sights. But I have no plans to start my daughter with them. My attitude is to start with things on "easy mode" and then, as needed and wanted, add the additional challenges. I'm as sympathetic as anyone to the curmudgeon's world view (I think it's a shame that nobody my daughter's age and younger will learn how to drive stick shifts), but I'm pretty persuaded that doing things in "hard mode" first and then adding advantages is not the best approach in general.
 
My favorite-and the only one I own, is made from s/s, has a fully checkered, "Mannlicher" style stock and a Williams aperture sight. Great handling, pointing and accurate little sporting rifle. I love hunting squirrels with mine.
 
ATLDave said:
For those suggesting iron sights:

I learned on iron sights. But I have no plans to start my daughter with them. My attitude is to start with things on "easy mode" and then, as needed and wanted, add the additional challenges. I'm as sympathetic as anyone to the curmudgeon's world view (I think it's a shame that nobody my daughter's age and younger will learn how to drive stick shifts), but I'm pretty persuaded that doing things in "hard mode" first and then adding advantages is not the best approach in general.
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Don't overlook the inherent advantages of aperture sights. (there are reasons that almost all Militaries use them)

1. Zero Magnification - The motion, and corrective movement, are 1:1, so that good marksmanship doesn't include an artificial and unnatural response ratio.
2. Zero Focal Length - Both the front sight and the target are in focus w/ an aperture sight.
3. Aperture "Look" - The front sight Does Not need to co-witness the aperture. As long as the front sight is visible in the aperture, the aperture "looks' at the front sight and the shot goes to the front sight.

It is fast, easy, and the proper way to learn rifle marksmanship.

My boys fought over the RAR-Compact, and had to buy a second one, even though there were several 10/22's as well. The balance and trigger are outstanding.




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Garandimal said:
Don't overlook the inherent advantages of aperture sights. (there are reasons that almost all Militaries use them)
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Almost all militaries are replacing (or at least relegating to a backup role) aperture sights with red dots.
 
ATLDave said:
I'm thinking of picking up a 10/22. Primary purpose would be plinking and teaching my daughter to shoot, . . . .
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Let her help pick it out. IMHO, she'll enjoy shooting it more if she was involved in the purchase. And your odds of her becoming a lifelong shooter go up if she does.

Also bear in mind that no matter what she picks out, if she's ever done with it, you can still either sell it or trick it out yourself.
 
ATLDave said:
I don't even understand what this could mean.
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For the magnification and illumination for door-kickin' assaults, and to engage precision targets at 2-300 meters.

...to the detriment of marksmanship.

Militaries - don't want to spend the money on marksmanship anymore. Squad Marksman and door-kickers are far cheaper.

Teach her marksmanship... or not.




GR
 
Spats McGee said:
Let her help pick it out. IMHO, she'll enjoy shooting it more if she was involved in the purchase. And your odds of her becoming a lifelong shooter go up if she does.
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Yeah, I'm mostly trying to generate the list of stuff to look at (or avoid). Back when my younger brother got a 10/22 as a gift from my dad, you could get blued or stainless, and you could get a wood stock or a synthetic one. That was the whole list of choices, IIRC. Haven't paid all that much attention in the last 25 years to the choices and was astonished when I recently started looking online. Just trying to get re-oriented to the 10/22 market overall.
 
To be honest

Buy any 22 rifle you like

As long as you have enough leftover cash to sign up for an Appleseed immediately.
 
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