Which Glock...

[chaim]

TL/DR version:

Which Glock should I sell?

After shooting for well over 20 years before I bought my first Glock, I find that with their substantially different grip angle compared with most handguns, I just don't shoot them very well. My small SIG P365 and snub nosed revolvers are more accurate for me than my full sized Glock 22. Now, I do want to keep one of my two centerfire Glocks for the same reason I finally broke down and bought my first a bit over a year ago in the first place (the Glock 22). I am a collector type and having a number of guns, and having owned quite a few more that I've since sold, I figured I needed a Glock to have a more complete collection. Also, despite being relatively inaccurate (compared to my other guns), I found the Glock 22 to be fun to shoot, which is why I bought the G19 (that and to add it to my carry roster, which I haven't done since I'm not as good with it as with my other guns: accuracy will matter if I ever need it to save my life).

I now have three Glocks and plan to sell at least one. I'll likely keep my .22lr Glock 44 that I bought as a trainer for my G19 because one can never have enough .22s (and I currently only have 3 .22lr handguns: the G44, a Taurus Tx22 and a S&W 317.

The only question is, which one(s) do I sell and why?

• G22
• G19
• G44

 

[chaim]

Full version:

Which Glock should I sell?

After shooting for well over 20 years before I bought my first Glock, I find that with their substantially different grip angle compared with most handguns, I just don't shoot them very well. My small SIG P365 and snub nosed revolvers are more accurate for me than my full sized Glock 22. Now, I do want to keep one of my two centerfire Glocks for the same reason I finally broke down and bought my first a bit over a year ago in the first place (the Glock 22). I am a collector type (I couldn't even give you an inventory of my pipe and pipe tobacco collection and it has been 6-8 years since I last smoked; I own somewhere around a dozen tweed or wool flat caps, fur felt fedoras, Panama hats, porkpies, etc., and replaced about half a dozen or so that wore out over the years; I have a dozen or more knives; I own scores of neckties and dozens of bowties; I have...), and having a number of guns, and having owned quite a few more that I've since sold, I figured I needed a Glock to have a more complete collection (a similar reason to why I still need to add a Beretta 92 even though I really don't need one). Also, despite being relatively inaccurate (compared to my other guns), I found the Glock 22 to be fun to shoot, which is why I bought the G19 (that and to add it to my carry roster, which I haven't done since I'm not as good with it as with my other guns: accuracy will matter if I ever need it to save my life).

I now have three Glocks and plan to sell at least one. I'll likely keep my .22lr Glock 44 that I bought as a trainer for my G19 because one can never have enough .22s (and I currently only have 3 .22lr handguns: the G44, a Taurus Tx22 and a S&W 317.

The only question is, which one(s)?

• Glock 22:
  • Why keep it: This is the first Glock I bought, and one of only two non-1911 full sized service pistols I currently own. I consider the SIG P229 to be a compact service pistol as it falls into that traditional category and is smaller than the full sized SIG P226, so my CZ 75B is my only other full sized auto pistol other than my 1911s. It is a fun gun to shoot, and while I'm not as accurate with it, it is certainly "combat accurate." I have a laser training pistol in the G17/G22 form-factor for very cheap (though not 100% identical) training. Probably the most compelling reason to keep it vs. the G19, with the current market preference for 9mm, I'd likely get a lot less money for this than the G19. Compared to the G19, I'm a little more accurate with it thanks to the longer sight radius (though the grip angle still gives me trouble). It is one of only two (working) .40S&W pistols I still own, and I do enjoy the chambering. As for having a Glock to fill in my collection, the G17 (the 9mm version of the G22) was the first Glock available here making it have some additional value as a representative of the type.
  • Why sell it: I shoot it a lot less than the G19. Part of that is the price of 9mm vs. .40, so this could partially change if I buy a 9mm conversion barrel, but part of that is that I prefer compact service pistols over full sized service pistols. Compared to 9mm, .40S&W is expensive, and while I love the caliber for a carry gun, it isn't as fun as .45ACP in a range gun. If I do change my mind about using it as a defensive gun, the G19 is a better carry size, and I haven't yet tested out the G22 with my preferred .40 defensive rounds (other than a 20 round box of defensive ammo, it's only seen cheaper JHP and ball ammo).
• Glock 19:
  • Why keep it: It is a fun gun despite being my least accurate gun (for me) in my collection, I even do better with my blackpowder pistols that I only take out once every few years. There is something about compact service pistols to me. While a full sized gun is going to better tame recoil and give a longer sight radius for better range accuracy, these smaller guns still do this range work well. While a subcompact or micro-9 will be a lot smaller and conceal better, these still do that well. This size gun is my "if I had only one gun" gun, though due to my Glock accuracy issues, my choice in that type of gun would be my CZ PCR, my S&W 1911SC, or a S&W M&P Compact. Still, I really love this sized gun, and the G19 is pretty much the most dominant gun of this kind of gun. Being perhaps the most common compact service pistol (and certainly, the most common Glock), and 9mm being Glock's original chambering, that gives this some value to be the one I keep as representative of a Glock. Finally, 9mm is a lot cheaper to shoot than .40S&W, making it better in that respect as a range only gun, and if I ever do change my mind about using this for defensive use, 9mm with good modern JHP designs are capable (and my G19 has already been tested with hundreds of rounds of my 3 most commonly chosen 9mm defensive rounds plus several others).
  • Why sell it: I'd get more money than with the G22. If I keep it, I'd probably have to replace the sights. Since I envisioned using this as a defensive handgun, I put XS Big Dot sights on this before I even shot it (the plastic sights that came with it were chewed up out of the box, which I didn't care about since I knew I planned to replace them with night sights anyway). They are meant more for quick sight acquisition than for accuracy, accentuating the problem I have with Glocks to begin with. That's extra money out of my pocket, and selling just used night sights may be tough to do.
• Glock 44:
  • Why keep it: If I keep the G19 instead of the G22 it is the exact size of the G19 and makes a great trainer. Heck, even if I keep the G22, to some degree, a Glock is a Glock (they all pretty much handle the same, and for me the weakness is the grip angle, which both the G44 and G22 share). Being able to shoot inexpensive .22lr ammo, I could shoot this a heck of a lot more than a 9mm or .40S&W Glock and possibly get used to the grip angle enough to eventually get as accurate with Glock as with other brands much more quickly than if I only had the G19 or G22. One can never have enough .22lr handguns (due to the cost of ammo if nothing else), and it is only one of three I currently own.
  • Why sell it: I bought it as a trainer for my G19 with the idea that I could shoot a ton of .22 for less money than 9mm and get used to Glocks faster and, if not have my accuracy match how I shoot most other guns, at least get to where I feel it is "good enough." Now that I no longer see myself ever turning my G19 or G22 into one of my carry guns (I'll always be better with my other guns unless I start devoting myself to only shooting Glock), this need isn't really there. While I did say I currently only own three .22s, I could always add more (I currently have my eye on a Ruger MkIV and a Ruger Wrangler).

 

[Tallball]

If you keep the G22, you can just buy a conversion barrel and a 9mm magazine, then you also have a G17. My G22 shoots fine with either barrel.

 

[chaim]

Hmm, another possibility... sell them all...

The 1911s, BHP/FN HP, CZs, S&W M&P, etc. don't have quite exactly the same grip angle but they are close. Then there is the Glock which is very different. Maybe I can get a PSA Dagger which is about in the middle between the Glock grip angle and everyone else's. It wouldn't quite be a Glock, but close enough (I'm a casual collector not a museum or even a serious collector, there are a lot of other guns not represented in my collection as well).

 

[JTQ]

The thing to consider in the Glock line-up is the G22/G23/G27 were originally just their 9mm versions G17/G19/G26 with little more than a .40 S&W barrel.

The reason Glock went to the third pin, introduced the Gen 4 guns, and now the Gen 5 .40 S&W guns with a heavier slide was to fix problems with their .40 S&W guns.

There are an awful lot of .40 S&W Glocks out there, and there are a lot of folks that love them, and many are on this forum, but Glock recognized the problems these guns were having and have been trying to fix them for a lot of years. We'll see if the Gen 5 solution is the one that works for them.

 

[chaim]

The thing to consider in the Glock line-up is the G22/G23/G27 were originally just their 9mm versions G17/G19/G26 with little more than a .40 S&W barrel.

The reason Glock went to the third pin, introduced the Gen 4 guns, and now the Gen 5 .40 S&W guns with a heavier slide was to fix problems with their .40 S&W guns.

There are an awful lot of .40 S&W Glocks out there, and there are a lot of folks that love them, and many are on this forum, but Glock recognized the problems these guns were having and have been trying to fix them for a lot of years. We'll see if the Gen 5 solution is the one that works for them.

My G19 and G22 are 5th gen.

 

[Anchorite]

Hmmmm….I think I’d dump the 44 and keep the 19 and 22. I get that you like the idea of a “trainer,” but why not invest the sale of the 44 into 9mm ammo and train with your 19? After all, the $ you’re wasting on 22LR could be applied to 9mm..might cost you a smidge more, but train with what you intend to really shoot…the 9mm. JMHO. YMMV.

 

[entropy]

Sell the G22.

 

[chaim]

Hmmmm….I think I’d dump the 44 and keep the 19 and 22. I get that you like the idea of a “trainer,” but why not invest the sale of the 44 into 9mm ammo and train with your 19? After all, the $ you’re wasting on 22LR could be applied to 9mm..might cost you a smidge more, but train with what you intend to really shoot…the 9mm. JMHO. YMMV.

My problem with shooting the Glocks as accurately as I'd like isn't the recoil management. I can shoot a 2" 442 and 2" Taurus 856UL accurately. It is the grip angle being so different than my other guns (well, that's the simplest explanation, it is possible that Glocks just aren't as accurate as most other pistols and I'm now good enough to notice, but more likely, its the grip angle). Shooting cheap .22lr gives me a lot more trigger time behind a Glock and makes me more likely to get to where I want to be with the Glock without exclusively shooting Glocks for a while. It doesn't take long for the cheaper price of .22 ammo to cause a .22 pistol to have paid for itself in ammo savings, and the G44 more than has already.

 

[bannockburn]

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If it was me, I would lose the G19, get a 9mm. barrel for the G22 and keep training/plinking away with the G44.

You can never have enough .22LR handguns.

Like you the grip dynamics of the full and compact size Glocks have never been all that great for me; that is until I discovered the G43X and the G48. Both these guns have a downsized, thinner grip design that fit my hand comfortably and are perfectly suited for concealed carry.

 

[InTheSwamp]

Hard to add anything to the "Full version" of your post. Seems as though you have the good and the bad of each choice. But since you asked, I'd get rid of the Glock 22. No practical advantages of 40sw over 9, and many disadvantages.

 

[jmr40]

Keep the G19

 

[JR24]

Don’t think there’s anything that could get me to get rid of my 19s, more likely to dump something else for more.

I’d keep that and the 44 since they are so similar and dump the 22.

 

[Mike in Western Oregon]

The head: sell the 22 if you don’t reload for .40. Keep the 19 and 44.
The heart: keep the 22 for sentimental reasons and sell the 19 as there are tons of those around that you can replace easily.

 

[drobs]

I have 22LR conversion slide for my Glock 19 that I rarely shoot. So the Glock 44 never interested me.

If I were you, I'd keep the 19 and sell the other 2. There are so many more 22LR choices out there.

 

[chaim]

Right now I'm leaning towards selling the G44 and G22.

Since I've given up on the idea of having the G19 be more than just a range toy, there really isn't a reason to have a .22 version of it to get used to the grip angle quicker. I'll probably eventually (after I buy a house in a year or two) replace it with a Ruger MkIV, but there isn't really a hurry. Though, I'll probably decide I want the MkIV a bit sooner.

As for the G22 I do love .40S&W, but I don't shoot it much anymore. I'm down to only two working guns in it, and I've been thinking about replacing both with the 9mm version or at least buying a 9mm conversion barrel. While I love .40, I use 9mm for carry (modern bullet designs make it nearly as capable, you usually get one or two more rounds in the same size gun), I use .45ACP for home defense (quieter), and it is now only for range fun. If I shoot up the .40S&W I have and either replace or get conversion barrels for my G22 and P229, it will free up ammo storage space for more 9mm, more .45, more .38spl or more .357mag.

I'm still 50/50 on selling the G19. While I have enough guns that it would be nice to have one Glock to round out the collection, and the G19 is basically the quintessential compact service pistol, I'm not so serious a collector that I really need to have one example of everything. I am a serious enough collector that it is nice to have owned a few different guns and I can say "I had one, it wasn't for me, but it was a nice gun," but I already can say that about Glocks. If I sell all three, I'd end up with a bit over $1000 or so that I could either add to my closing costs/down payment when I buy a house, or I could buy a Beretta 92 without it feeling like it cost me anything (another gun that as a gun owner who has seen quite a few guns enter my collection over the years, that I probably should have owned).

 

[Gun-Reck]

Keep them all, as they all have their place.

Or, sell both the G19 and G22, and get a G23.

But that's just me.

 

[PistoleroWadcutterGANG]

The 34 is awfully forgiving and soft to shoot. Just a shooting joy. The brother 35 is friendly too.

 

[herrwalther]

Sell them all. If you don't shoot a firearm very well after trying it for years, there is no reason to keep it in my opinion. My first firearm was a Walther P99 in .40, quite similar to the G22. Lukily I shoot it very well. Otherwise I would have sold it a long long time ago.

There are better striker fired options out there to replace your Glocks. Many Glock 19 clones like the Dagger and Masada are enjoyed by people who don't like Glocks. My Dagger gets carried quite often but I will never own a G19.

 

[bangswitch]

TL/DR version:

Which Glock should I sell?

After shooting for well over 20 years before I bought my first Glock, I find that with their substantially different grip angle compared with most handguns, I just don't shoot them very well. My small SIG P365 and snub nosed revolvers are more accurate for me than my full sized Glock 22. Now, I do want to keep one of my two centerfire Glocks for the same reason I finally broke down and bought my first a bit over a year ago in the first place (the Glock 22). I am a collector type and having a number of guns, and having owned quite a few more that I've since sold, I figured I needed a Glock to have a more complete collection. Also, despite being relatively inaccurate (compared to my other guns), I found the Glock 22 to be fun to shoot, which is why I bought the G19 (that and to add it to my carry roster, which I haven't done since I'm not as good with it as with my other guns: accuracy will matter if I ever need it to save my life).

I now have three Glocks and plan to sell at least one. I'll likely keep my .22lr Glock 44 that I bought as a trainer for my G19 because one can never have enough .22s (and I currently only have 3 .22lr handguns: the G44, a Taurus Tx22 and a S&W 317.

The only question is, which one(s) do I sell and why?

• G22
• G19
• G44

Sell them all. Why? Because....Glock. Buy a nice Commander sized 1911 in .40S&W or .45ACP, and another .22 for plinking, either a S&W M17 or a pre-1985 M41 if you want a semiauto.

I owned a G20 for 24 years and never could warm up to the gun, although I love 10mm and immediately replaced the G20 with a 1911 in 10mm. Now my centerfire semi's are all 1911's and a BHP, and I'll never look beyond them.

 

[JTQ]

My G19 and G22 are 5th gen.

Right now I'm leaning towards selling the G44 and G22.

As for the G22 I do love .40S&W, but I don't shoot it much anymore. If I shoot up the .40S&W I have and either replace or get conversion barrels for my G22 ...

I'd be interested in getting feed back on Gen 5 G22 conversions to 9mm. While the Gen 4 G22 and G17 were essentially the same guns, the Gen 5 G22 slide is noticeably heavier than the Gen 5 G17 slide.

 

[Ks5shooter]

Sell them all, you said you didn't like Glock guns.Seems like a no brainier.

 

[chaim]

Sell them all. Why? Because....Glock. Buy a nice Commander sized 1911 in .40S&W or .45ACP,

I'm already experienced on 1911s. I used to have an Officer sized RIA, I started over 20 years ago with a Charles Daly full sized, and currently I have a 1st gen S&W 1911SC (Commander sized) that I've had 15-20 years, a 9mm Springfield Armory Garrison, and a full sized .45 Dan Wesson. Between that and my CZs, there is a reason the Glock grip angles don't work for me.

Sell them all, you said you didn't like Glock guns

I don't shoot them nearly as accurately as my other guns. I actually do like shooting them, they are fun guns, hence why I'm thinking of keeping one as a range toy. However, I'll never use them for carry or home defense, the amount of time I'd need to put into them (probably at the exclusion of my other guns) I'd rather use to get even better with the guns I already shoot well. Though, they can be frustrating at times since they aren't all that accurate for me.

 

[KKJ13]

How can someone want to get rid of so much perfection?

 

[someguy2800]

In a world with so many options you don't need to keep a gun you don't like, and you definitely don't need a 22 trainer for a pistol you don't like. Sell all 3 of them and get something different.