Which gun makes you feel like you own perfection?

[chaplain tom]

Define "Perfection". Are we talking craftsmanship, or reliability, or lethalness, or what?

My old sixties Model 12 Winchester 12 Guage is a fine crafted shot gun. My XD .45 is a fine self defense weapon. My Glock 17 is a fine weapon as well. But as far as sheer art in craftmanship my Bond Arms Texas Defender .45/410 is the best MADE gun I've ever held in my hand. I know it's simple design is a plus in the craftmanship department because there's not much to it, but the folks at Bond Arms really do an awesome job hand making these little guns. I really do love all my guns including the Luger my dad handed down to me that he got from a guy he worked with who brought it back from Europe after WWII. That's a piece of craftmanship as well, (and it's mint) but it doesn't hold a candle to the Defender. I guess that's why they cost so much for such a little gun.

 

[ChCx2744]

A Glock 17 is a milestone in firearms. Next to the AK-47 types of guns, the Glock 17 is a completely different beast that is a legendary marvel of engineering and technology. I personally believe the Glock 17 has changed firearms history forever (Being the original and poster child of Glock).

 

[Sgt_R]

Best BBQ Gun? I don't own one... though my S&W 63 would look real pretty with wood grips. Hmm...
Best Concealment Gun? Kahr P380. There are less expensive options available, but none fit my hands as well as the Kahr.
Best Bear Gun? I'd have to go with my Mossberg 590, simply because I don't have anything else big enough.
Best Gun for Wimmens? My girlfriend is partial to Glocks, Kahrs, and AR15's. She picked a Kahr PM9 as her CCW.
Best Nightstand Gun? Glock 22. The 590 would be a good choice too, but it's easier to keep a handgun away from the kids.
Best Reliable Gun? My Glocks. I've never had a single malfunction with either of them.

R

 

[valorius]

A Glock 17 is a milestone in firearms. Next to the AK-47 types of guns, the Glock 17 is a completely different beast that is a legendary marvel of engineering and technology. I personally believe the Glock 17 has changed firearms history forever (Being the original and poster child of Glock).

What was so completely different or new about it?

Short of being the first pistol with a short single action style trigger and no manual safety, there is nothing particularly unique about it at all.

To me, perfection looks like this:

 

[Creature]

My P-226 and my Colt Detective.

 

[Maverick223]

What was so completely different or new about it?

I'd like to know the same thing. Everything they did was in the footsteps of H&K (the developer of the first polymer pistol which precedes the Glock by 12 yrs) and Roth-Steyr (the pioneer of striker fired pistol design; precedes the Glock by a staggering 70yrs). They are unremarkable in design and exhibit poor ergonomics (for myself), though they have proven extremely reliable.

 

[Joe Demko]

What was completely new and different about it was that large numbers of people actually wanted it. The VP 70 had a horrific trigger and a goofy front sight. The Roth-Steyr was handicapped by so many quirks and oddities that it hardly matters that it pioneered striker firing. Glock combined a reliable operating system, modified Browning, with the other features and produced a gun that many organizations and private individuals find meets their needs very well. I, personally, don't care for them.
In any case, it's amusing to me that "perfection" from a couple different makers can't handle cast lead bullets well.

 

[engineerbrian]

My Browning model 53 in 32-20 is top notch!

 

[AH-1]

 

[inSight-NEO]

Sig P220

The rest is up to me.....

 

[Centaur 1]

Marlin 336. I look at one and I get visions of old men in red and black checkered wool jackets, wearing hats with ear flaps. I think about how many of these "deer rifles" have been handed down from generation to generation, and I wonder how many kids shot their first buck with grandpa's 30-30. Whenever someone shows me their handed down 336, they usually have stories to go along with every ding and scratch. As a matter of fact, I just recently refinished the stock on one that was built in 1956 for a good friend of mine. He specifically asked me to just strip off the old finish and to please not sand out any scratches or steam out any of the dents.

 

[elcabob]

Beretta 92F. So nice, so smooth, so consistent.

 

[Jonah71]

I'm quickly becomming fond of the old Sig P6 West German police pistol I just bought. Finally a 9mm I can fire accurately.

 

[dakota1911]

Perfection? Colt Gold Cups. Ruger No. 1s. Colt Pythons.

 

[rattletrap1970]

Colt 1903 Hammerless. 1918

 

[Jonah71]

I don't know if the original owner of my 2003 Kimber had any problems with it concerning reliability. But I love the gun. It's been extremely reliable and a joy to shoot. And as long as I don't try to use Gold Dot HPs, I have complete confindence that it will do the job and it does feel comfortable in my hand. Would I pay the price asked for a new Kimber? I don't think so. For the money I think I could do much better. But buying one that someone else may have worked any possible "kinks" out of has worked out fine. My only complaint is that it's such a bear for me to break down. Fortunately it doesn't require as much cleaning as my other pistols.

 

[30mag]

CZ-75b

Fuzzy pic

 

[Win1892]

Python

 

[thunder173]

S&W Chief's Model 36, 3 incher,.... circa 85,..and my Dad's pre 64 Wincester 94 in 30 WCF..........as good as they come.

 

[jsimmons]

My Springfield 1911. How can one argue against a 100+ year design still being in use today? How can that not be "perfect"?

 

[redbullitt]

For me its gotta be my 308 built off surgeon 591. Seems pretty darn close to perfect in my book.

I will give an honorable mention to Jsimmons 1911 lol. Those are NICE feeling weapons.

 

[ScratchnDent]

 

[clance]

One in each category:

Handgun - Browning High Power in 9mm

Rifle - FN FAL

Shotgun - Parker VHE in 20ga. (still working on this one!)

 

[30mag]

In any case, it's amusing to me that "perfection" from a couple different makers can't handle cast lead bullets well.

I have never ever shot a cast lead bullet in my entire life. I don't know personally know anyone who is living that has. That's exactly like me bragging on a rifle that's chambered in .30-06 because you can load .30-06 with black powder. That's great if someone was interested in doing it, but really, it's a pretty poor standard of measurement.

What was completely new and different about it was that large numbers of people actually wanted it.

IMO:
I think large numbers of people wanting something doesn't necessarily make it good, new, or different. It means Glock had a good marketing department.
i.e.
"Glocks are safe"

 

[M2MikeGolf]

In regards to an auto pistol in 9mm, the SIG P228. I only claim this for a service 9mm category, no other. (My personal favorite pistol is the M1911A1), but for fit, finish, design, maintenance, size, balance, accuracy, multi-use, etc, I have to vote for the P228.
It's really the pistol the US Army should have gone to, and actually did (in small numbers, AKA, M11). The P226 is a great pistol, maybe even better, however, it's a big large for my hand. The 228 is a great size, big enough for range and accuracy, just small enough to make it easier to carry.