which is the freest state in the union?

[FireBreather01]

Well, it is definitely NOT Wisconsin.

Gun-hating Democrats

Sky-high taxes

Idiot Milwaukee and Madison sheeple run the state with their 'progressive', as in socialist-let-the-Man-run-it-all, attitudes.

If not for strong family ties, I would be outta here!!!

 

[Cosmoline]

My dog likes the fact that Alaska has an endless supply of sticks, free for the taking

 

[Drysdale]

Wow, upon reading that list, I am persuaded. I'm actually tempted by that. A lot more tempted than I am by New Hampshire.

Ok, time to work hard, make money and maybe move to MT.

Better hurry... lots of Californians are moving there and trying to make it into a little Cali...

 

[c_yeager]

I have to go with Alaska. Freedom is more that how many laws are on the books. Alaska is not only short on freedom-restrictive laws, they have a general culture of permisiveness. I also get a real sense that the state government has a tendancy to believe that they actually work for the population rather than the other way around. Besides, you have to respect a state that gives its surplus revenue back to the population, rather than finding worthless projects to spend it on.

 

[Creeping Incrementalism]

What about Nevada?

 

[FNFiveSeven]

Alaska, no question about it. No other state can match the following:

No income tax
No sales tax
No property tax
State-wide CCW WITHOUT a permit
Class 3 stuff OK
No screwy anti-smoking laws (that I know of)

Alaska is on a whole different plane when compared to the rest of the USA. Sure Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, etc. are good, but c'mon, they don't even compare to Alaska, not even close. Plus, as an added bonus, the postal code for Alaska is "AK"

 

[stevelyn]

The Free Republic of Alaska.

Although we've slipped over the edge a little this week and lost a little freedom.
The governor signed a bill into law making seatbelt violations a primary offense.
At least he was honest about it being a revenue generator and didn't try to blow smoke up our collective arses about "saftey" like the Public Safety Commisioner did. Oh well, nobody said I have to enforce it..........officer descretion ya know.

 

[otasan]

No State, especially NH

New Hampshire. Certainly of the Eastern states. But I live here, so I'm somewhat biased. Although I will concede that Montana and Wyoming have much to recommend them as well.

As for NH gun laws:

• Shall issue since 1923 (80+ years!)
• Open carry legal (although not common in the few cities)
• Class III no big deal (if you can afford it)
• Firearms law preemption (so uniform laws throughout the state, no city or town can make their own firearms rules)

Also, did I mention:
- No state income tax
- No sales tax

And a truly part-time legislature (so less time to cause mischief) with pay set in the state constitution, so legislators can't vote themselves a pay raise without the citizens approving an amendment to the state constitution!


Other reasons (Quoted from [URL="http://www.freestateproject.org/community/nh_info.php



No state is free as long as a district court judge in MA feels free to issue a restraining order against an out-of-state man who has had next to no contact with plaintiff in 19 years, and what little there was was totally safe and non-threatening.

My small firearms collection has been in police storage since last D-Day.

You could be a defendant in Alaska and still fall victim to this injustice.

 

[PCGS65]

Alaska, no question about it. No other state can match the following:

No income tax
No sales tax
No property tax
State-wide CCW WITHOUT a permit
Class 3 stuff OK
No screwy anti-smoking laws (that I know of)

Alaska is on a whole different plane when compared to the rest of the USA. Sure Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, etc. are good, but c'mon, they don't even compare to Alaska, not even close. Plus, as an added bonus, the postal code for Alaska is "AK"

OK Illinois is, well it sounds like most of you know but here we go
Income tax 3%, but they want to raise it to 5%
State sales tax is 6.25% but where I live it's 7.75% and 9.5% for alcohol and restaurant dining including fast food.
Property tax is 7.1% of 1/3 assesed value(high)
No CCW, Illegal to own/posses a gun in cook county(chicago)even if just driving through.
Illegal to posses a gun within 1000' of a church,school or park.
Legislation pending to ban all military style guns or guns that look like.
Use of cameras in some cities at intersectons to mail you tickets.
Camera/computerized vans in constuction zones to mail you speeding tickets $375 minimum, $1000 second offence with suspension of licence.
It's against the law for me/my son to ride a bicycle on the sidewalk around the block. No I don't live in chicago.
That's enough for now. Hey Blackrazor,Cosmoline Tell me more about alaska. Like really no property taxes? I hear residents receive oil revenue checks? What about jobs? How much to heat your house/igloo?LOL Just having some fun there. I'm serious though. PM me if you want so the mods don't lock for drift. Oh I almost forgot,I'm a seafood lover too!

 

[RealGun]

The governor signed a bill into law making seatbelt violations a primary offense.

Someday you may find that a gun found not on your person without a trigger lock will be a "primary offense". The seeds have been planted.

 

[MCgunner]

Alaska's one of those "nice place to visits" and in proper season and then you'd better bring plenty of deep woods off.

New Mexico would rank if gun laws were the only test. They don't have a concealed carry law, but are an open carry state. When I got my FFL 15 years ago, I got a book of firearms laws and browsed it. New Mexico had like one paragraph, LOL, and New York was like a friggin' BOOK! My GOD, SCREW New York! New Mexico doesn't have much population, has a lot of wide open spaces and big game hunting and is 51% public land last I read. However, I HATE state income taxes. It is Democrat controlled pretty much and pretty stupid liberal, but somehow that doesn't bleed over into gun laws. Apparently there's not much crime there for liberals to blame guns for.

I could think of a lot worse places to live than New Mexico, but I don't like the fact that they have little if any waterfowl hunting. I gots ta have my ducks!

Illegal to own/posses a gun in cook county(chicago)even if just driving through.

I hope the supreme court gets a shot at that one sometime in the future.

 

[Gifted]

New Mexico would rank if gun laws were the only test. They don't have a concealed carry law, but are an open carry state.

They do. In fact they changed it before I left to make it more friendly, lowering the gae limit and such. Only problem I had was the arid climate. My nose didn't like it.

So, we have a list of a few states that are the freest. Now for the next question, which one is preferable? Pop. density, cost of living, etc.

 

[Fletchette]

So, we have a list of a few states that are the freest. Now for the next question, which one is preferable? Pop. density, cost of living, etc.

Since Freedom is my highest priority, I do not see a difference.

 

[stevelyn]

Since Freedom is my highest priority, I do not see a difference.

Precisely! What's a little -40 F weather when the goobermint pretty much leaves you alone?

 

[FNFiveSeven]

The weather in Juneau is some of the nicest in the country. It's 44 degrees F there right now, and it's early in the morning in mid February.

 

[PCGS65]

The weather in Juneau is some of the nicest in the country. It's 44 degrees F there right now, and it's early in the morning in mid February.

Blackrazor how are jobs,cost to heat a home? Are there really no property taxes? I love to hunt also. Tell me more...............

 

[silliman89]

KCMO -- #14
I hate to bring alcohol into the equation on a gun board;
But "Nanny-States” or ”ABC Control States” have always bothered me.

I drive hundreds of miles to buy my alcohol in NH every year. It's 20% cheaper there and I buy a year's supply so that's a noticeable amount. I don't know of any place that has better prices than the NH state liquor stores, and the one on I-95 has great selection.

If cheap booze makes for a Nanny-State, then I'm first in line for the nipple.

 

[silliman89]

Cosmoline -- #27
My dog likes the fact that Alaska has an endless supply of sticks, free for the taking

Nice looking German Shepard Dog. Living in VA as we do, our dog suffers because there aren't any sticks.

 

[treebeard]

NH for sure!

 

[Libertyteeth]

There is a new Montana freedom migration site up. The old freewest.org (MT/ ID/ WY) was hacked and was down for some time. There is a lot of useful information collected here for those interested in practical aspects of a Montana migration (though lots was lost and is not yet restored), or have questions about some aspect. Jobs, taxes, gun rights, homesteading information, weather, politics and culture are discussed, with people just now beginning to get active on it.

http://www.montana-alliance-for-liberty.org/

http://www.montana-alliance-for-liberty.org/phpBB2/index.php

From a libertarian perspective, Montana is an interesting blend of liberal and conservative with a healthy dollop of libertarianism and constitutionalism thrown in. Kind of a live and let live attitude, especially in Western Montana (the mountainous part -- people live in the mountain valleys).

Montana privatized the state liquor stores some time ago.

 

[IndianaDean]

My dog likes the fact that Alaska has an endless supply of sticks, free for the taking



Beautiful animal! I like Shepherds.

As for Vermont, other than firearms the state seems to me to be very socialist. I wouldn't call that free in any big sense.

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

Take a good look at any major governing city dealing with geographic areas involving minority issues like black on black violent crime, gang violence and drug related killings and that state will not be free as this thread is talking about.
In this case Baltimore, Maryland's Violent crime rate fuels the fire of a restrictive anticarry agenda for the entire state of Maryland.

Alaska, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, New hampshire, New mexico, Arizona are some of the fortunate states that don't experience crimes of this intensitity.

IMHO CCW was meant to deal with just this type inhumanity. Where and when you need to deal in the most critical fashion. This type of inhumanity will not listen to reason or correction or society or values ingrained from family listen to nothing else but the business end of a gun.

Leaders and Politicians are led to believe that anyone with a gun has degenerated to criminal level and guns as a whole are bad because in their world "bad guns = bad people" and this is all they are taught to hear and see.

IMHO It is a sad fact to see a degenerate city of Baltimore extend it's sovereign gun rights over the whole State of Maryland and restrict the whole state. I can only imagine large parts of California strongly resembling Maryland.
We who believe in RBKA need to influence those who can influence others.

 

[Nulik]

How would you rate Colorado on the list? I just moved here recently and it seems a whole lot freer than New Jersey.

 

[Igloodude]

How would you rate Colorado on the list? I just moved here recently and it seems a whole lot freer than New Jersey.

Welcome to THR!

And I'll be the first one to say: "a whole lot freer than New Jersey" is kinda like "a whole lot colder than hell".

 

[Pilot]

How would you rate Colorado on the list? I just moved here recently and it seems a whole lot freer than New Jersey.

Colorado is much freer than New Jersey, but so is mainland China. NJ could be the poster child for a socialist, nanny state, hell hole. I moved to CO from S.E. PA about 1 1/2 years ago and find CO about the same as PA for guns, taxes, politics, etc. For a northeastern state PA is pretty good. For a Rocky Mountain western state, CO is only fair. Lots of people from CA have moved here and want to emulate their former goofy state.