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Gun is a Remington 700 5-R in .308 Win. Scope is a Leupold VX-3 6.5-20x50mm Long Range Target:

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-...flescopes/vx-3-6-5-20x50mm-long-range-target/

According to Leupold, the scope has a 30mm tube and the objective diameter is 2.3 in. The scope has 92 MOA of adjustment range, the load I intend to shoot has 30.5 MOA drop at 800 yards. Shots beyond 300 yards will be rare and the longest range in my area is 600 yards. Drop at 600 yards is only 20.25 MOA so a standard base should be sufficient. The rifle is a short action with a heavy contour stainless barrel.

According to DNZ the center of the medium base is 1.105" from the top of the front of the receiver.

http://www.dnzproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_2&products_id=169

The center of the tall base is 1.23" from the top of the front of the receiver.

http://www.dnzproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_2&products_id=31

There is some drop between the barrel and the top of the receiver. Will the medium base provide enough clearance or will I need the tall rings?
 
I don't switch scopes or detach them from the rifle pretty much ever, so I was thinking that something like the Dednutz ring/base combination would fit the bill. Talley makes something similar, does anyone else?
 
I don't switch scopes or detach them from the rifle pretty much ever, so I was thinking that something like the Dednutz ring/base combination would fit the bill.
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Nor do I, but a one piece rings/base (both rings) is the way to go. I realize that you still need to add a P-rail, but it is still more solid than two separate rings.

:)
 
if 600 yards from a tactical rifle is as far as i would shoot, i would put leupold dual dovetail bases and high rings on my rifle and be happy.
 
if 600 yards from a tactical rifle is as far as i would shoot, i would put leupold dual dovetail bases and high rings on my rifle and be happy.
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Agree!
No use spending big money on big name stuff, it really is not worth it in the long run...hey, if your going to be jumping out of low flying UH-60's, well maybe the industrial stuff may be better, but for casual range work or shuffling around the lower 40 any of the civilian duty mounts will do!

If you want a 1 piece p-rail get a Ken Farrel base http://www.kenfarrell.com/scan/st=db/co=yes/sf=category/se=Remington%20700%20short/op=eq.html?id=mnEaBjgr

and a pair of Leupold PRW High Rings, and your done. Ken Farrel sells rings also, but $$$$! http://www.leupold.com/tactical/products/mounting-systems-and-accessories/mounting-systems/prw-rings/

If you want two piece bases, just get the Leupold PRW bases and rings...cheap, effective, and they don't look too bad!

BTW...good call on the scope!
 
"There is some drop between the barrel and the top of the receiver. Will the medium base provide enough clearance or will I need the tall rings? "

My T3 wears a 1 peice DNZ Mid and I can get a 50mm Obj on there because the of the barrel taper. You might need to slide the scope forward to obtain the clearance but it could give you eye relief issues. Its worth a shot because it keeps the optics close to the bore and you dont loose a good cheek weld.
 
You might need to slide the scope forward to obtain the clearance but it could give you eye relief issues. Its worth a shot because it keeps the optics close to the bore and you dont loose a good cheek weld.
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NO NO NO NO NO Do not 'slide the scope forward' to obtain objective bell clearance

Look, the scope has to be positioned according to where your eye resides on the stock, this is why the LOP and 'fit' of the stock is so critical.

You bring to scope to your eye when mounting the scope on the rifle, you do not solely position the scope as to where it clears the barrel.

If you have to have tall rings to get the scope to be where it needs to be, correctly mounted, to provide you with the correct eye relief when your properly shouldering the rifle, then you just need to get high rings and add an adjustable cheek piece such as a Karsten Brand adjustable cheek piece. http://www.imageseek.com/karsten/gallery/forsale

Your application should need the High Rings with the standard Leupold twist in mounts and the Leupold PRW stuff.

If your going to use the raised Picatinny rail by Ken Farrell you'll need the Leupold PRW Medium height rings.
 
You will be just fine with the DNZ Low Mounts. I use them with an SPS Tac 20" heavy varmint barrel + a Zeiss 4.5-14x50 & there's just enough daylight with BC flip-ups. Mind you, it's on a SA .308 & the scope is a hair longer than 14".

Your Leo 50mm's actual outside bell measurement is about 2mm more in diameter than my Zeiss, but that extra 1mm radius *shouldn't* make a difference as long as the scope is long enough & you have a SA.

The DNZ combines the best features of the Picatinny with the added benefits of rings integrated with the rail, and a cutout for the single feeding path, along with lighter weight.

If you find the scope doesn't quite clear with the DNZ Lows, the Talley LW Lows are just a tad higher, and will do the job.

Gun is a Remington 700 5-R in .308 Win. Scope is a Leupold VX-3 6.5-20x50mm Long Range Target:

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-s...-range-target/

According to Leupold, the scope has a 30mm tube and the objective diameter is 2.3 in. The scope has 92 MOA of adjustment range, the load I intend to shoot has 30.5 MOA drop at 800 yards. Shots beyond 300 yards will be rare and the longest range in my area is 600 yards. Drop at 600 yards is only 20.25 MOA so a standard base should be sufficient. The rifle is a short action with a heavy contour stainless barrel.

According to DNZ the center of the medium base is 1.105" from the top of the front of the receiver.

http://www.dnzproducts.com/index.php...roducts_id=169

The center of the tall base is 1.23" from the top of the front of the receiver.

http://www.dnzproducts.com/index.php...products_id=31

There is some drop between the barrel and the top of the receiver. Will the medium base provide enough clearance or will I need the tall rings?
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Sorry - typo - the Talley LW Mediums are just a hair higher than the DNZ Game Reaper Lows.

The Low Talley LW is slightly lower than the Low DNZ Game Reaper.

But my answer to your original question still stands - yes, the DNZ Lows *should* allow your 50mm scope to clear AS LONG AS THE SCOPE OVERALL LENGTH IS OVER 14".
 
Maverick223 said:
Nor do I, but a one piece rings/base (both rings) is the way to go. I realize that you still need to add a P-rail, but it is still more solid than two separate rings.

:)
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QD mounts are made for ARs. The problem with a setup like that on a bolt rifle is that it almost always leaves the scope too far above the rifle. This means that you often need a cheek riser to get a consistent cheek weld. The additional height of the scope above the bore also does weird things with your zero.

All this pain for no gain. The Larue and ADM have vertically split rings that in effect are mo different than a good set of rings on a normal base. Certainly not any stronger. A good set of rings are plenty solid.

Something like a Weaver branded Piccatinny rail and the EGW Practical rings make for a nice low setup for a bolt rifle with a 30mm tube and 50mm obj scope.
 
If the scope ends up just a tad high for both a good cheek weld and correct eye alignment, try a Cheekeze stick-on pad. They come in small and full. They are made from a material similar to faced wet suite foam. They will raise your eye and make a comfortable cheek weld. Makes shooting a pleasure :)
 
BrocLuno said:
If the scope ends up just a tad high for both a good cheek weld and correct eye alignment, try a Cheekeze stick-on pad. They come in small and full. They are made from a material similar to faced wet suite foam. They will raise your eye and make a comfortable cheek weld. Makes shooting a pleasure :)
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I've used one and they worked OK, but I didn't think it would hold up all that well. I've got another cheekrest/riser from Beartooth (I think) that consisted of a neoprene sleeve that fits over the stock and comes with a series of progressively thicker spacer pads that go underneath it. Worked much better but still a pain in the butt. Still not nearly as good as getting the scope as low as possible to begin with.
 
helotaxi said:
Cheekeze - I've used one and they worked OK, but I didn't think it would hold up all that well. I've got another cheekrest/riser from Beartooth (I think) that consisted of a neoprene sleeve that fits over the stock and comes with a series of progressively thicker spacer pads that go underneath it. Worked much better but still a pain in the butt. Still not nearly as good as getting the scope as low as possible to begin with.
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Agreed 100% Unless shooting small critters at long distance in early or late light (Coyotes and such), the 50mm objective is not necessary. 40 or 42 will get you a much better head position during a hunt.

But, for target work the reliability of a cheek-eze is not that big a deal. I'll look into the BearTooth pad. Adding a pad is common practice and has been going on since scopes were invented. Just need to find that nice old leather Parker Hale with all the polish and patina :)
 
Burris Medium extreme tactical will mount that scope nice and low with clearance for Butler Creek caps. Leupold medium rings work good to. You can go lower but the price of the rings may detour you from that. If you have problems with cheek weld, the Eagle stock pack works well and is easy to pad up if need be. I had to shim my pack up because I used a 20 moa base.
 
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