Why is the Lee so CHEAP!

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Lee has done more to get new reloaders started than any other company and maybe all the others combined*. The reason is Lee is affordable. Times are hard and money is tight for lots of us. Period! There are many new reloaders that just want to feed their guns and this is the only way they can do it.

I have been out of work 4 years trying to get disability. I trade/barter for most of my components and still manage to shoot 10k+ per year. All my equipment is Lee, presses, powder measure/scale, and bullet molds. If I had to afford any other brand of equipment I would not be shooting. Simple as that, and lots of others are feeling the same. If they had to buy Dillon or RCBS for their first press and accessories they would not be reloading. Many folks cannot lay out that much to get started.

It really gets old hearing about new reloaders being told to buy Lee now and "upgrade" later on. Why upgrade? Maybe from a single stage to a turret or progressive, but with the requirements most of us have switching brands, stick with Lee and use the money you saved to buy components.

I have not used any press except those made by Lee, so I won't comment on the others except to say that anything mass produces is prone to failure. Sure the higher priced brands may have a lower failure rate, but all the companies stand behind their products and have great customer service to fix whatever happens.

If you load under 15k per year Lee has a press for you that is affordable. If you load more than that, Lee has a press that is affordable, you just need to dedicate more time to get it all loaded. If you load like freakshow, Lee might not do it for you, unless you wanna work sun up to sun down every day and keep a box of spare parts on hand.




*My guess. I have nothing to back this up.
 
Maybe Lee is cheaper because they don't own a bunch of black SUV's and Helicopters with Miniguns sticking out of them. LOL

I say this and everything I reload with is Blue... Just wish it were a bit cheaper also.
 
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Not to start a whole new thing, how good are the Lee Perfect powder Measures? I have the money to buy an RCBS, Hornady, or a Lyman. But would I ever know the difference being that I'm a small time reloader? If it's important, I'm looking for accuracy over speed of production. I don't want to spend twice as much if the difference is going to measure by the hundredth of an inch at a hundred yards. But if I'm averaging 3/4th of an inch (1/2 inch being common) by using a scale on each load, I don't want it to become 2 inch group with a Lee measure if the others will get me 1 inch...Either way I want a dispenser...

Now that I have a Redding Boss, would it be worth it for me to get a Lee Turret Press to save time. It seems like a logical design. Or don't bother and invest the money else where such as an ajustable case trimmer as I'm using the Lees for now?

Keep in mind....I'm not looking for mass production as needed by Freakshow, I'm just looking for some decent varmint/target ammo for weekend shooting at my parents farm. I'm looking at 300 to 400 yard shooting at crows and woodchucks with my savage 22-250.

I guess my point is that I have the money to buy the "better" stuff. But if I can't tell......Well...I'd rather spend it on a nice meal or other toys for shooting....
 
Not to start a whole new thing, how good are the Lee Perfect powder Measures?

They look cheap. They feel cheap. They ARE cheap. They work wonderfully. I don't see a need to spend the bucks on other powder measures.

With the low cost of the Lee PPM, one could choose to keep one set up for each powder/load used and just leave 'em.
 
Agree with swampboy. I have Lyman #55, Hornady Lock & Load BR Grade, and the Lee is my go to measure. Throwes perfect charges every time. Some claim they leak a lot, but if adjusted correctly thats not a problem, at least it hasn't been for me.
 
I'm a little tired of readingengineered to minimum requirements. I am an engineer and I specialize in failure analysis. I've yet to see one of these minimum design presses broken. I think everyone know's how much we reloaders (started 1964) abuse and overload our equipment. I've dug dozens of stuck cases out of dies but none came from a Lee press or Lee dies? I've used a single stage Lee press for years for wildcat forming, no broken presses? I also don't own a Lee progressive press but based on the club members and friends I'm going to buy a Lee progressive in .223, them one at a time every other one I use a lot: 7.62X39, 45 ACP, 9MMX19 as everyone say's their only problrm is resetting up. I'm going tp mount those presses on dovetail patforms so I can interchange them with one pin.
 
"That Dillon has about 3 million rounds loaded on it ..."

I don't think anyone would say the Dillons aren't great presses for those who need what that brings to the table. But, that kind of durabiltiy would mean nothing to me, I'm a precision rifleman, not a spray shooter so I wouldn't load 1 million rounds in five lifetimes.
 
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