Worst brass destroyer

[Roadkill]

I thought my Galil was the worst with the dent in the side but I just ran 40 rounds through a CETME. Fluted chamber, looks like pliers were used for an extractor. The gun ran great but its definitely for my end of the line brass.

 

[smoking357]

Oh yeah, dude. They're known for chewing up brass. Cool gun, though.

 

[billybob44]

I thought my Galil was the worst with the dent in the side but I just ran 40 rounds through a CETME. Fluted chamber, looks like pliers were used for an extractor. The gun ran great but its definitely for my end of the line brass.

I have heard the same. I also have read that the fired brass can be loaded, using normal procedures, with great success. If you have saved those 40 cases you may give 10 or 20 a try on the re-load process..

 

[Devil Dog]

My HK-91 was rough on the brass too. The chamber fluting was not a problem, but the cases got big dents in the side from the ejection port. Got a port buffer and it helped a lot. I only reloaded the brass to see if the flutes caused a problem, which they did not. Since at the time, 7.62x51mm surplus was dirt-cheap, I did not reload much for the beast. Ahh... the good old days.

AKs are pretty hard on brass too. After about 3-4 reloads, I have to hit the rims with a file to knock off the rough spots from the extractor and ejector. The case dents I don't worry about.

D.D.

 

[ol' scratch]

PTRs CETMEs and HK-91s CHEW brass up and spit it 10-15 feet at high speed. I had to get this case out of my bucket of shame.

 

[timberwolf204]

i know a friend that has a Hk-91 and that was a brass chewer. they look just like pictures from ol' scratch

 

[qajaq59]

ol' scratch, I've never seen brass chewed up like that just from firing. I don't think I'll run right out and buy one of those guns. Not at the price of brass these days.

 

[evan price]

In all fairness to the HK fluted chamber and delayed roller mechanisms, they were intended for military weapons, and saving brass is absolutely not something they worry about on a battlefield, but working 100% with whatever ammo fits in the chamber no matter how dirty the gun is was a deciding factor. They were not intended to be sporting arms!

That said, yes, the HK/CETME rifles chew up brass and spit out scrap metal.

Use Berdan primed surplus for this purpose, it's not like you'll be able to reload berdan stuff anyway.

 

[wilkersk]

Worst brass destroyer

9 year old boy with new boots is murder on hot .45 brass ejected onto a concrete surface.

 

[Galil5.56]

An IMI Galil is pretty rough, and ejecting cases can be found in the next county.

 

[Lloyd Smale]

if you are handloading back the speed off to about 2500 fps with a 150 and it will be alot kinder to your brass.

 

[SteveW-II]

Alternatively, check your bolt gap. I hand load for both of my HK G3s and found that running the bolt gap at the larger sizes made a big difference the the 'violence' of the extraction. While you still get the fluting marks, they don't seem to effect the reloadability of the brass. The case body and neck dings went away. I reload using Hornady 150 FMJBT and 46 grains of BLC2 and get 3 reloads out of a piece of LC brass. After that it's toast and likely to give you case head separations.

Hunting the brass down is still a chore..

 

[bullseye308]

M CETME threw the brass in an arc of 2:00-4:30 45 FEET consistantly. What brass I could recover was 75% reusable. Those were mid range loads and it never failed. Utterly reliable, and very accurate. Darn heavy though.

If you have a CETME, HK G3, HK91, look into a port buffer. If you can find one and afford it, it will help save a lot of brass.

My egyptian MAADI was rough on brass too.

 

[ol' scratch]

ol' scratch, I've never seen brass chewed up like that just from firing. I don't think I'll run right out and buy one of those guns. Not at the price of brass these days.

Hence the reason I sold it. I could deal with the fluting, because the press would work it out. What concerned me was the cratered primer. I would never know if I had a pressure problem with my reloads.

 

[dnicholson]

yeah the great thing i have found about the galil,hk33 and 91 are they love wolf and brown bear ammo! since i do not reload these are the cheapest options my hk33 will not eat brass ammo at all which is ok by me i save the brass for my ar!

 

[Slamfire]

Install a port buffer. It will reduce the massive side dents to nothing.

Case mouth dents will happen and I pull them out with pliers.

Hey, its a battle rifle.

 

[John Wayne]

I've heard the HKP7 is bad too, but who cares about 9mm brass?

I had an AK that would sling brass upward at about a 70 degree angle...gun itself didn't hurt the brass but it had a nice dent in it after it bounced off the I-beam holding the roof up!