Yugo Tokarev M57

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nice find there. chrome version?

I have a handful of these tokarevs and variations from different countries. great guns, just wish modern ones had better sights. my old eyes dont see mil type sites well anymore. so I rarely shoot mine anymore due to this....
 
jhb said:
nice find there. chrome version?

I have a handful of these tokarevs and variations from different countries. great guns, just wish modern ones had better sights. my old eyes dont see mil type sites well anymore. so I rarely shoot mine anymore due to this....
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Yes, it’s chrome plated. Vendor had only 3 chrome finished, the rest were blued. It’s pretty accurate given the horrible trigger. Have you worked on the triggers?
 
303 hunter said:
Yes, it’s chrome plated. Vendor had only 3 chrome finished, the rest were blued. It’s pretty accurate given the horrible trigger. Have you worked on the triggers?
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gotcha thanks. I like the chrome versions that pop up once in awhile. dont own any though.

no Sir. it will never be like a 1911 trigger no matter how much you try. I've seen many botched jobs trying to get it better. they will never be a trigger youd want, if you're following me. be very careful messing around with these.
 
303 hunter said:
... It’s pretty accurate given the horrible trigger. Have you worked on the triggers?
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I cannot recall if it was the first (Aug'10) or second (Aug'11) pair of M57s that I bought that sported TERRIBLE triggers.

During my standard detail strips & inspections, I found in one the sear spring (a leaf spring) was almost completely worn-thru and the other sear spring had been turned 180° :scrutiny:, perhaps by a unit armourer who was short on spare parts.

None of my Tokarev triggers are actually "good". I think of them as being "acceptable", especially knowing that I have smoothed/polished all contact surfaces as much as possible/wise. :)

To disassemble the Trigger Spring Housing, you would need to make a tool (easiest way) or depress the spring with a carefully-applied small flat-tip screwdriver.
 
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I bought mine when the first batch got here(on the cheap), just to have one. after getting quite a few boxes of privy ammo and shooting it, I like it.
 

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The tokarev is one of the thinnest full power military pistols ever issued. It is something that a clever gunsmith could likely rebuild into a good CCW carry piece in .38 ACP. Main thing is a rapid and positive safety so one can carry it cocked. I believe that the required safeties for importation only block the trigger. If you ever mess with the sear do not count on the safety and carry it chamber empty.
 
I have a 9x19 barrel (and at least one modded mag) for a standard TT-33 form-factor. Works great in my Tetejkas, but I like them best in 7,62x25. :)

I have never tried it in any of my M57s so I do not know if it would work without fitting. If it worked I would need to use one of the longer M57 mags, obviously.
 
GBExpat said:
I have a 9x19 barrel (and at least one modded mag) for a standard TT-33 form-factor. Works great in my Tetejkas, but I like them best in 7,62x25. :)

I have never tried it in any of my M57s so I do not know if it would work without fitting. If it worked I would need to use one of the longer M57 mags, obviously.
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The standard length tokarev mag and also that of the M57 should be when loaded with 9x19 have about 6 mm extra space due to the shorter 9x19 cartridge. There are some chinese 8 shot mags set up for the 9x19 with a spacer in either the mag or grip. If you hand load the 9x19 you could seat the bullets a little further out using heavier, longer bullets to better fill in that extra magazine space.
change the gun out to 9mm or 38 ACP will likely change the point of impact for the different chamberings.
 
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The standard length tokarev mag and also that of the M57 should be when loaded with 9x19 have about 6 mm extra space due to the shorter 9x19 cartridge. ...
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Of course. Remember my mention of the 9x19 Tokarev mag that I have? It sports a different size spring & follower and a spacer installed at the rear ... BUT ...

... the spacer is not necessarily ... necessary. :)

Y'see, I also have a 9x19 barrel for my CZ52 pistols and leave it permanently installed in one of them. I rarely use the modified mag in that one. I just use the regular mags with the cartridges in a forward configuration.

Until just prior to insertion in the pistol's magwell, I keep the cartridges in proper position with a little dowel rod spacer.

I remove the dowel rod, insert the mag and shoot all of the cartridges. I have never experienced an issue with them moving out of position in any of my mags.
 
Took the pistol apart today, and polished the sear and hammer surfaces. Didn’t change any angles, just polished to a slick finish. The sear actually had some surface rust. Also bent the trigger return spring slightly, and removed the mag safety. Trigger pull went from 15 pounds (measured with a Wheeler gauge), to 7 with a crisp release.

I believe that I could make it lighter with a modified hammer spring, but won’t modify the one in it. When I can find another spring I’ll try it.
 
FWIW, I got a Chinese Tokarev in 9mm a few years ago. I traded something else for it. It had been shot a lot.

The trigger is decent: not great or terrible. It has good accuracy for a service pistol and has yet to malfunction.

I tend to trust the Russians on their weaponry. Every Russian-designed or adopted firearm (or copy thereof) that I have purchased has been at the very least sturdy and reliable.
 
The Yugo's seem to be the best value for a 7.62x25 pistol these days. I have been thinking of getting a Tokarev and was contemplating Yugo or Romanian, but I've decided when the time comes, I'm going Yugo. Mags can be found and seem to be easier to get than TTC mags.

Is the rear sight on the Yugo windage adjustable?
 
TTv2 said:
The Yugo's seem to be the best value for a 7.62x25 pistol these days. I have been thinking of getting a Tokarev and was contemplating Yugo or Romanian, but I've decided when the time comes, I'm going Yugo. Mags can be found and seem to be easier to get than TTC mags.

Is the rear sight on the Yugo windage adjustable?
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I think it could be drift adjusted.
 
Improving the trigger on a Tokarev is not hard to do. So far, I have done trigger jobs on a Yugo m57 and a new Zastava m57. I have taken them from horrible to good triggers. They will never be as good as a customized 1911 trigger but they can be better than a lot of hand guns for sale today. The new Zastava m57 that is made in Serbia is drop safe; the safety blocks the trigger and the firing pin so you can carry it cocked and locked just like a 1911. Also, the safety does not interfere with the trigger pull like add on safety’s do on the military surplus tokarev.
 
Brin said:
Improving the trigger on a Tokarev is not hard to do. So far, I have done trigger jobs on a Yugo m57 and a new Zastava m57. I have taken them from horrible to good triggers. They will never be as good as a customized 1911 trigger but they can be better than a lot of hand guns for sale today. The new Zastava m57 that is made in Serbia is drop safe; the safety blocks the trigger and the firing pin so you can carry it cocked and locked just like a 1911. Also, the safety does not interfere with the trigger pull like add on safety’s do on the military surplus tokarev.
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If you CC the ZastavaM57, can you or anyone else recommend concealment holsters for it?
 
barnetmill said:
I will have to try a concealment type holster for the 1911, but I am doubtful of such fitting properly.
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I have an OTW Ross Leather holster (model 22LC) molded specifically for a TT-33 ("Tokarev") that they special-ordered for me in 2012 from their South African facility. Both my TT-33s & my M57s fit properly in this holster.

I also have a Ross Leather Colt "1911 CrossdrawDriving Holster" (from the same timeframe, model M23S1911BLK) that works great with all of my TT-33s but will not snap closed on my M57s due to interference by the 1911-esque safety.

FWIW ... ;)
 
GBExpat said:
I have an OTW Ross Leather holster (model 22LC) molded specifically for a TT-33 ("Tokarev") that they special-ordered for me in 2012 from their South African facility. Both my TT-33s & my M57s fit properly in this holster.

I also have a Ross Leather Colt "1911 CrossdrawDriving Holster" (from the same timeframe, model M23S1911BLK) that works great with all of my TT-33s but will not snap closed on my M57s due to interference by the 1911-esque safety.

FWIW ... ;)
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I would want one that fits inside the waist band appendix position.
 
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