Zippo Handwarmer
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wow, have not thought of those in years. I have used both the Zippos and the no names. Once lit, they all work great. The no names I had held more fuel, but the catalytic unit (or what ever it is called) did not seem to last as long as the name brand.
I'm going to find me a pair for this hunting season.
I'm going to find me a pair for this hunting season.
Do you mean the Jon-E http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/c...abelas/en/common/search/search-box.jsp.form23 handwarmers ?
If so I don't have one at the moment nor have I needed one in several years with the weather usually being fairly comfortable when I have deer hunting but I have had them and they work great .
Just one warning make sure you refill it without overfilling it , Years ago in a parking lot refilling mine after lunch while hunting and about to head out I had a guy come over to tell me how dangerous they were , he then relates this story of how he overfilled his and just let it go and used it he wound up putting it in a coat pocket and the next thing he knew his cost was on fire !!
Remember this and Don't overfill then and clean off the out side of it if you spill any fluid on it .
If so I don't have one at the moment nor have I needed one in several years with the weather usually being fairly comfortable when I have deer hunting but I have had them and they work great .
Just one warning make sure you refill it without overfilling it , Years ago in a parking lot refilling mine after lunch while hunting and about to head out I had a guy come over to tell me how dangerous they were , he then relates this story of how he overfilled his and just let it go and used it he wound up putting it in a coat pocket and the next thing he knew his cost was on fire !!
Remember this and Don't overfill then and clean off the out side of it if you spill any fluid on it .
jim147
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I have one but I have never used it. Thanks for reminding me. My hands and feet get a little colder then they used too.
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scythefwd
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Armedbear - We had javelinas at Ft. Huachuca. Most of that post is 1 mile high or over. Depending on what time of year, it could get as cold as 25-30 degrees F, and it will "snow" in the mountains. Most of southern AZ shuts down at 1 inch accumulation though. It may not be the -10 you see in ID, but it is enough for frost bite and hypothermia.
25-30 is enough for frostbite and hypothermia all right. But a basic set of gloves with wind blocking membrane will suffice. I was out in said conditions the other day. This, too, is high desert, and we were getting a dusting of snow when I was out hunting. (And no, it doesn't usually do that here, at relatively low elevations in October. Global Warming is a bitch.)
Even at 0, I've been able to stick my hands in my pockets, without gloves. It's TOES that get cold. I'd be more concerned about them.
Even at 0, I've been able to stick my hands in my pockets, without gloves. It's TOES that get cold. I'd be more concerned about them.
scythefwd
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AB, Arizonans, at least near the fort, were in winter jackets at 40-50 degrees. I'm from IL originally and was walking around in a sweater (having been skiing in -30 actual, -50 windchill in Wisconsin, on a mountain) like it was starting to get chilly. They didn't even have good cold weather gear there in Sierra Vista (the city just outside of post). You couldn't find a good wind blocking cold weather coat for miles if you didn't shop on post. The gloves they had available were massive thinsulate gloves which aren't exactly suitable for pulling a trigger.
Oh, I know. I lived in San Diego for years. The "zonies" would come to the beach in the Summer dressed like we did in the Winter.
Since you have 'til February, though, you can mail-order some appropriate gloves more easily than digging up some handwarmer thing. Cabela's has some lightweight ones with trigger fingers. I was just using cheap thin fleece ones from Wal-Mart the other day, no problem.
There's a big Wal-Mart in Benson, isn't there? They ought to have something.
I haven't been out in a Wisconsin Winter. I can't believe that people can do it.
Of course, half of Wisconsin spends Winter in Southern Arizona, or so it seems...In the high desert, when it's just below freezing, and windy, with a little frozen stuff on the ground, it's amazing how cold one's toes can get. That's the only part of me that's ever felt like it could freeze off.
You might have the best luck hunting outside the fort. The illegal aliens drive the game, if you can figure out how and where. It's a real bitch for deer hunting, though.
Oh, say hi to the guy with the mouse that sits on the cat that stands on a dog, if you see him.
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scythefwd
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I have walked around in a Tshirt at 20 degrees because it was -10 the whole week before and it felt warm out
Speedo66
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Do they give off a smell that might spook game?
scythefwd
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Javelinas would walk through camp with a bunch of GI's that hadn't seen showers in a week, while we were still up and mulling around.
Deer??? I don't know... I never saw one while I was in AZ. I did see a few collies with antlers though.
Deer??? I don't know... I never saw one while I was in AZ. I did see a few collies with antlers though.
MCgunner
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I just buy chemical hand warmers, no fuss, no muss, work great with no lighting and spilling fluid and stuff. I've had those that have a stick you light and lay in 'em, too, still a pain. If there's not enough air circulation in your pocket, they'll go out.
The chemical packs are a lot less hassle. I haven't had a fluid warmer in many years.
The chemical packs are a lot less hassle. I haven't had a fluid warmer in many years.
And I'll bet you could still smell the pigs, too.
Yeah, the deer are small down there. Not much water. The first time I saw Idaho mule deer, I wasn't sure what they were. They had deer heads, but moose bodies, compared to the deer along the Mexican border!
MCgunner
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Coues and Carmin Mt. Whitetail are tiny even compared to OUR whitetails. LOL! I shot a mulie, rocky mt variety, in New Mexico and that one was WORK getting out of the high country on foot. I shot the danged thing, and of course, he rolled down hill all the way to the bottom of the canyon. A coues deer is like hunting jack rabbits.
A coues deer is like hunting jack rabbits. I'm sure it will be. I'm just saying that I'd wear some half-decent gloves. Your hands get plenty of blood supply, and it's relatively easy to keep them warm.
Your toes, OTOH, don't get the best blood supply, and it can be really hard to keep them warm. I've worn cheap fleece gloves that let the wind through, camping and hunting in Montana when it was 0 to 20 degreees, and my hands were fine. My toes, OTOH, felt like they were going to fall off, they were so cold, and I was wearing 600 gram Thinsulate boots.
So I reiterate, just get gloves for your hands, but spend your time and money making sure you are keeping your FEET warm. You can hold your bare hands near the campfire in the evening, for that matter, but you will melt your boot soles trying to re-heat your toes that way.
And UnderArmor ColdGear long underwear is great stuff, worth the $100 a set, because it doesn't bunch up at all under your clothes, but adds a great layer of warmth.
I've spent most of my life in the Soutwest, and Boise's climate is not like Northern Idaho or Western Montana. It's desert hot here half the year, then it's mild but can turn fairly cold for a few months. So I'm not all that much more acclimated to cold than an Arizonan.
Toes, my friend. Take care of your TOES!
Your toes, OTOH, don't get the best blood supply, and it can be really hard to keep them warm. I've worn cheap fleece gloves that let the wind through, camping and hunting in Montana when it was 0 to 20 degreees, and my hands were fine. My toes, OTOH, felt like they were going to fall off, they were so cold, and I was wearing 600 gram Thinsulate boots.
So I reiterate, just get gloves for your hands, but spend your time and money making sure you are keeping your FEET warm. You can hold your bare hands near the campfire in the evening, for that matter, but you will melt your boot soles trying to re-heat your toes that way.
And UnderArmor ColdGear long underwear is great stuff, worth the $100 a set, because it doesn't bunch up at all under your clothes, but adds a great layer of warmth.
I've spent most of my life in the Soutwest, and Boise's climate is not like Northern Idaho or Western Montana. It's desert hot here half the year, then it's mild but can turn fairly cold for a few months. So I'm not all that much more acclimated to cold than an Arizonan.
Toes, my friend. Take care of your TOES!
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schlockinz
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I'd say forget the handwarmers and get some nice gloves. Best set that I had for years and used bow hunting were the wool liner gloves from the army surplus. Just put a few beads of silicone on them to keep things from sliding in your hand. I'd wear these till it got down to the teens when bow hunting (holding a big chunk of aluminum gets cold QUICK)
rcmodel
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If you need handwarmers at all, the chemical packs are the only way to go!
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/s...-E881-DE11-B712-001422107090&mr:referralID=NA
Jon-E warmers stink like lighter fluid, leak out if over-filled & burn your skin, and often won't stay lit after the catalytic element becomes fouled with carbon residue the first few times you use it.
You also have a hard time getting them lit in windy conditions.
It's 1950 technology competing with 2009 chemical packs.
And it's no contest!
rc
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/s...-E881-DE11-B712-001422107090&mr:referralID=NA
Jon-E warmers stink like lighter fluid, leak out if over-filled & burn your skin, and often won't stay lit after the catalytic element becomes fouled with carbon residue the first few times you use it.
You also have a hard time getting them lit in windy conditions.
It's 1950 technology competing with 2009 chemical packs.
And it's no contest!
rc
Kernel
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The only down side to the chemical packs is they have a finite shelf life. Last years packs won't be nearly as warm, and two year old packs are practically useless. Be careful on stocking up on a bunch after hunting season is over, becasue they may not work very well for you the next year (figure out for yourself how I know 
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).MCgunner
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Yeah, I figured out the shelf life thing, too, early on. Fortunately, I can run down to Wallyworld right down the street if I think I'm going to need some.
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